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Stop all Muslim Immigration to Australia?

Posted by: Past Contributers in General, Politics

It seems that John Miller, former senior intelligence officer thinks we should stop all Muslim immigration immediately. In this article he points out the pitfalls that we- on this blog – have been pointing out for quite a while. A sober and interesting assessment.

Do we as a culture have the intestinal fortitude to take such a step? It would take a realisation that we are not only making a critique of certain values and behaviours that are not part of the Judeo-Christian West but also that we actually understand who we are. And that is the sticky point. Do we know who we are as a civilisation or are we lost in the ‘Anything goes…’ mentality where the paragon of virtue seems to be to say ” I did it my way…’ ? ( whether it’s being a rock star, businessman or terrorist). Has the shared sense of values gone? Or are we just not stating it clearly enough?

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215 comments so far

dee

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Many people feel this way. Allowing continued Muslim immigration to Australia places Australians in the same position as those silly Trojans and the big horse – we are courting our own destruction.

One good thing is that the MSM has gotten onto the bizarre ranting and ideas of Muslim ‘clerics’ and they wont let it go, not while its newsworthy. Thanks to the idiots resonsible for our present immigration laws, it may be difficult to stop Muslim immigration, but I think we should be able to ban certain ehtnic or religious groups on the grounds of ‘known failure to integrate’.

The lessening of the Bali bombers sentences may wake up a few people too. Hope there isnt another tsunami any time soon.

August 18th, 2005 at 9:50 am

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It would be so difficult to ban Muslim immigration, because they will simply lie. They will say they have converted to Christianity or whatever. I don’t think it is possable to enforce sadly.

August 18th, 2005 at 11:59 am

Gravelrash

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SKYLARK:
That is the whole issue in a nutshell. Thank you for saying it.

“….but also that we actually understand who we are. And that is the sticky point. Do we know who we are as a civilisation or are we lost in the ‘Anything goes…’ mentality where the paragon of virtue seems to be to say ” I did it my way…’ “

I fear we are not mature enough any more, as a nation, to do the hard yards this needs….too soft, too indulgent, too confused. We were once, but those Australians are not here anymore, and their values are repudiated at every turn. They are myths. Would the ANZAC generation even recognise us as their inheritors? My grandfather…… I think he’d be ashamed, not BY us…. FOR us.
Sometimes I pause and look at 21st Century Australia…..and the inescapable conclussion? The Muslim is right…… who would want their children to be influenced by this culture? Right…..but for all the wrong reasons.
I can think of no greater horror….that the Muslim judge us and our society prove him right.
We have to draw more than one line in the sand. Islam is not an answer, but nor is the miasma of ethical ambivalence and “moral” turpitude we are mired in. Australia stands for what?

August 18th, 2005 at 4:56 pm

Bozwell

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Skylark,

A chilling and excellent article. I think all of this is possible but it will take the majority of us who would like to see these changes made to stand up and be heard. I simply cannot believe that most people reading this would disagree with the message it sends–they would in fact approve wholeheartedly of swift action on the part of the Government to ensure our safety.

August 18th, 2005 at 5:16 pm

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We on the Right have the intestinal fortitude to take such steps. The cowards and traitors on the Left do not.

And I don’t think it would be that hard to enforce.

We destroy every mosque, every islamic bookstore, every shop selling halal food and we forbid construction of new ones.

And to take things a bit further, as part of the migration test (if they are suspect) we make them eat three pork meals a day (unless they are Jewish and then they are exempt) and make them read statements about how mohammed and allah fuck goats or something similar and something about how the Jews are God’s chosen people.

That’ll soon weed them out.

August 18th, 2005 at 9:06 pm

skylark

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Maybe some sticks of cabanosi to any non-Jewish immigrants as they arrive and a ham sandwich eaten in front of the cameras- as they read and sign a form that says that they are not pedophiles or followers of pedophiles (ie followers of Mohammad)-and that they wish to build up Western civilisation. Anything I’ve left out?

August 18th, 2005 at 11:32 pm

Ginger

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Believe me, this is an article from the front page of the ”Dandenong Independent” dated August 17, 2005. Please take note of the last paragraph :evil:

Fears over refugee crime
By MIKE Morris
DANDENONG West residents are becoming alarmed about the number of violent crimes committed in their area by African refugees. Since March there have been a series of rapes, indecent assaults, assaults and robberies mainly against Australian women in public places in daylight hours. Police are also concerned about the high incidence of complaints of domestic violence and unlicensed driving by Sudanese men. The most recent rape was against a 36-year-old Australian woman who was dragged from Hemmings St, Dandenong West into the driveway of a block of flats, had her clothes removed and was raped by a young man of African appearance. The offender is still at large.

In early March there was a series of violent rapes, assaults and robberies, starting at Springvale but mainly committed in the vicinity of Hemmings Park, Dandenong. In one instance a 63-year-old woman was raped, her throat cut and robbed in her home. Police shortly after arrested 19-year-old Sudanese Hakeem Hakeem of Wilma Av Dandenong.

He is held in custody charged with nine counts of rape, one incidence of indecent assault, attempted murder, armed robbery, intentionally causing serious injury, aggravated burglary, injurious imprisonment and common law assaults. He will appear for committal mention in Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on August 31.

On Monday, April 4, an 18-year-old Caucasian woman was waiting for friends in Close Av, Dandenong when a young Sudanese male indecently assaulted her. She fought him off. The man returned to drinking with his friends in a nearby laneway. He was later arrested and charged with that offence and with sexually assaulting a 25-year-old woman who was looking after an eight-year-old boy in Hemmings Park on March 10. The boy, who was in respite care, was assaulted.

An elderly Dandenong West woman rang The Independent last week to say she was very nervous to step outside and was keeping her doors locked. She was concerned about the high number of African refugees moving into her neighbourhood. There are about 3000 Sudanese living in Greater Dandenong. “I have lived in Dandenong for a long time and I support multiculturalism, but the culture is becoming too dominant here. “They are taking over,” the woman said. She has written to Immigration Minister Amanda Vanstone and Federal MP for Bruce Alan Griffin to express her concerns. Ms Vanstone’s office replied to the effect that in all cultures there are always wrong-doers.

Chief Inspector George Johnson of Dandenong police recently told a meeting of the Dandenong drug and crime prevention committee that there were problems of family violence and men driving without licences in the Sudanese community. He told The Independent that recently there had been a meeting with Sudanese elders on the issue of driving without a licence and in unregistered cars. He believed the public concerns may have been raised when Sudanese driver Taban Gany crashed into Dandenong West Primary School on May 19 (see story page 24), seriously injuring three children.

He said the Sudanese had a “completely different culture”. They have come here from a country that has been in civil war for 20 years, and where the police force is run by the military. Chief Inspector Johnson’s comment about cultural differences was shared by Sam Afra, chairman of the Ethnic Community Council of the South East (ECCSE), which has organised four information sessions with the Sudanese – ranging from the law to education and family law. “You could write a book about the difference in family cultures,” he said. It’s a huge issue. For example, some of the domestic disputes are caused by wives asking for part of the husband’s welfare benefits, something that is taboo in Sudan,” Mr. Afra said. He said Sudanese refugees come to Australia and are almost immediately put into the mainstream. With Sudanese still coming to this region from across town (‘They like it here”) and from Sudan, and with a reported 1000 refugees from war-torn Liberia, Mr. Afra asked for the community to try and understand that they will need time to adjust to their new life and the Australian culture.

August 19th, 2005 at 4:41 pm

Islam

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For all who are against Islam
I can understand your anger from some people how pretend islam and their behavior are not at all related to true islam. But before judging something that u do not know about it, u should have a look on islam concept and tradition and understand what islam is basing on and the target behind every idea. After all “Ashhado an la Illah el Allah w ashhahad ana MOHAMMAD rassul el ALLAH”
you poor people save ur selves from fire and come into islam it is your way to paradise.

January 26th, 2006 at 12:28 am

Always On Watch

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Islam:

you poor people save ur selves from fire and come into islam it is your way to paradise.

You are deluded. Your way does not lead to paradise.

Repudiate the Medinan verses, and we might have some common meeting ground.

ssman Reply:
July 15th, 2010 at 6:13 am

Right on – Today’s Islam is Medina Mohammedanism. and therefore violent and dysfunctional. Take it away, and you’ve de-clawed the monster.

Ali Reply:
March 13th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

I believe that violence is mostly related to an individuals character and upbringing rather than his/her religion.
For this, DIAC is asking immigrants for their background clearance before granting them a visa.

Islam in general has nothing to do with violence. It is a matter of culture and upbringing. Are all of those african tribes who are killing each other muslems?

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

Your way does not lead to paradise. Please explain: If a man who commits Jihad goes to paradise and receives his reward of however many virgins, what does a female suicide bomber get? Your religion is a joke pal.

January 26th, 2006 at 10:40 am

Islam

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Always On Watch:

Instead of answering me u should take a look for other comments and think why i wrote the last message.

Tiberius :
We destroy every mosque, every islamic bookstore, every shop selling halal food and we forbid construction of new ones.
And to take things a bit further, as part of the migration test (if they are suspect) we make them eat three pork meals a day (unless they are Jewish and then they are exempt) and make them read statements about how mohammed and allah fuck goats or something similar and something about how the Jews are God’s chosen people.

Even though i advice you to take a deep look on Islam’s thinking. Maybe u will have a lot of explanation and understand what i’m talking about.

Good Luck

January 27th, 2006 at 2:12 am

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Hey islam…don’t even go there! You have in the midsts of your cult, people who not only say but attempt to DO the very things Tiberius jokeingly wrote about.

You have balls of steel to come in here complaining about light hearted jibes when your cult is so soaked in blood.

January 27th, 2006 at 10:26 am

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Islam:
“you poor people save ur selves from fire and come into islam it is your way to paradise”.
Mate, the only “fire” I fear is the fire that accompanies a bomb in a crowded public place, placed their by YOUR people.
I have looked into the Koran, to discover your “paradise”, and if its ok with you, I’ll pass, thanks all the same. What sort of God is it you worship, who condones slaughter. Worse, he actually demands it and flunkies like you obey! Screw you Islam, and the camel you rode in on. You can behave like a barbarian in the comfort of your own desert, but never in my country.

Julie Reply:
November 14th, 2010 at 10:49 am

Dear Gravelrash,
I completely agree with you.
Islam is not peaceful. You only have to remember 9/11 to know that.
Stop muslim immigration to Australia, England and other European Countries.
Let western democracy reign and Islam be forced back into the narrow-minded countries it comes from.

Christine Reply:
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:46 pm

I am Australian, my ancestors are from England and Ireland, I was born and raised here and converted to Islam. I assure you Islam is peaceful, those terrorists who were behind 911, they ARE NOT my muslim brothers and sisters, they are criminals and may Allah punish them on the Day of Judgement

khaled Reply:
April 23rd, 2012 at 12:23 am

hello every one,
Christine, i would congratulate yu form my deep heart for converting yu to islam and may Allah help us to stay in the right street !! as yu say islam isn’t a religion of terrorism, it is just the opposite; but the governement of big country like US, england france try to make it look the worst one!! i use to like australia for the “kindness of its people” the landscape…. but really when i see such opinions i think that i should be very attentif!!!!!!!!
finally christine ,from tunisia, salam and it will be very nice if we become friends! peace!!

February 1st, 2006 at 7:00 am

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HiYa Grav! Lost none of the fire I see

February 1st, 2006 at 10:31 am

Christopher Fawkes

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I have been pondering the idea of creating a proposed set of laws that could be created if Australia were really to become a multi cultural country.
Then passing it around so people could get an idea of what the concept would really mean if they were to be sincere.
I agree that many Australians are simply lost as to the fact that our value system is based upon the Judeo/christian ethic.
In fact most of the problems we have is in departing from those very values. Which is why some bastard can get out of jail every few months for rape until he kills some innocent girls.
Or why in late term abortions where the baby could survive on it’s own it is legal to insert a pipe into the base of the childs skull and suck the brain out. In fact it is the courts that prevent the media from reporting on that one.
We need to get back to who we are and what we believe.
It’s the only philosophy that you can build a free society upon. And that grates many muslims, many of whom would never choose to live under a country ruled by their own laws.

February 4th, 2006 at 10:59 pm

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G’day patrick!:roll:
Well, yeah, the fire in the belly that I thought was reflux turns out to be from consuming to much product from the Middle East, after all!!!!
Every word you said, Christopher Fawkes, every word!
“I have been pondering the idea of creating a proposed set of laws ….”
Lets hear more of your thoughts on this….
before an Australian Embassy goes the way of the Danish and Norwegian.
One of the most ludicrous things I have heard of late is the Islamic “boycott” of western goods etc. “We can stand alone”. OK, … do so Mamdou, no-one stopping you here!

February 5th, 2006 at 11:25 am

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Well, yeah, the fire in the belly that I thought was reflux turns out to be from consuming to much product from the Middle East, after all!!!!

Gravel, you been eatin Hallal stuff???!!!!!!! Say it ain’t so.

February 5th, 2006 at 1:08 pm

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Chris…

I agree that many Australians are simply lost as to the fact that our value system is based upon the Judeo/christian ethic.

Yes they just don’t get it, nor do some people accept it even if they do get it.

February 5th, 2006 at 1:10 pm

Scott

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Hey Islam, the same applies to you. Read the Bible and you may see the difference between Jesus and Mo-Ham-Head. Jesus was a man of peace, Mo was a murdering pedophile who invaded lands and slaughtered and tortured along the way.

Fuck you, fuck your cult but most of all fuck that arsewipe Mo you submit to….

February 6th, 2006 at 11:07 pm

marc

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Don’t have faith that those in power will do the right thing. Look at Europe, i’m afraid their fates are sealed and irreversible. It sickkens me tremendously to see how we in the West have been deceived by a shortsighted and flaccid governing class who unwittingly have set the stage for the decline of western civilization. Our tolerance is our undoing. I’m afraid that only strong and persistent political activity by the silent majority will have any affect. It is time to get involved, affect change, the fate of western civilization is at stake!

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

I agree 100% with you Marc. Western Civilisation is now at risk of being taken over by Muslims (all under the guise of multiculturalism gone wrong). It is one thing to be tolerant. It is quite another to be walked all over. Our country changes its laws to suit others. Can’t even sing Christmas Hymns in some Kindas nowadays. We are in danger of becoming extinct.

February 23rd, 2006 at 11:07 pm

Brad

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1.) White people and all other races, KNOW immigration doesnt work, other races (non white) pretend it will work because the only care about improving their lives, they dont respect the current occupants of countires they emigrate to, they take and never give back, as soon as the plane or boat lands its all about, ME, what can i get

2.) Western = christian/catholic background, Middle Eastern and others like indonesians = Islam

Christianity and Islamic past = WAR didnt work then wont work ever, im a christian i think its sad but i know why it wont work

3.) No one can ever be forced, by either peer presure or laws to think of all people the same of have no bia’s or to stereotype groups, its only being human to do so, whatever skin or sometimes country your born of is where your number 1 loyalty is, if you could save someone dying of your own skin colour or religion or someone random what would u do? u know the answer

These are only a few of what could be a whole book of facts as to why there should be tourism but no imigration anywhere from anywhere, all countries would have better relations i beleive if it was this way

Message to non-whites- what would you think if every white countries population was rising durastically and heaps were immigrating to your countries and didnt assimilate and began to make up a superior majority, would you be ok with this?

Message to whites- Australia and western countries futures seems confusing, uncertain and doomsday, I know we have great fear of the rest of the world but if you read history we shouldnt be afraid

white people, colonised more than half the world, we win every war, we have best technology, latest weaponry, we are creative and well educated, and iv found reading about your countries past reignited patriotism that we today lack and makes you proud of your countries acheivements, our falling out with god and our christian faith has made us weak and sinful, we need revival

We also need solutions to the trend in drop of birth rate in western countries, its mainly to do with disobeying god, being selfish and im beginnign to beleive, sorry girls but all your rights you have obtained have left you with so many options you dont have to choose being a mother anymore, i think thats maybe a problem?

REMEMBER, were not being racist, or ethically wrong, were excersising our right as free people to feel safe, look our for our own interest before others and have a strong patriotic, nation bonded together by our similarities as ONE = toghetherness not multiculturalism MULTI = division,

White people make up 15% of world population, look at a map we still own about half of the land mass on earth, what do we fear, why do we fear, we are tough as nails, we kick ass, OUR land, thirdworld countries overpopulation, not OUR responsiblility or problem,

I would write more but I understand its daunting to read so much

May the Lord Be With You

feathers Reply:
September 20th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

Brad, you read my mind.

hatem Reply:
January 22nd, 2011 at 10:43 pm

So well said, without swearing, i tried many times but cat put it into words without slagging the repressed black twats

True Blue Reply:
March 4th, 2012 at 3:56 am

I totally agree Brad.

We need to stand up for this country and defend our borders. There is a war going on outside and the general population is too busy to care or trying to get a pat on the back for taking the left wing moral high ground. “Well done for opening the flood gates”, they say to each other, while their daughters are raped and sons are bashed by ethnic gangs and their very livelyhoods are threatened.

The media gives huge coverage to immigration and multicultural supporters, disproportionate to the general public’s beliefs. By acting so weak, we – the public, are inherently changing the coarse of history, which will lead to our demise.

Multiculturalism = segregation = social downfall

We are also disgracing our forefathers who risked their lives to fight for Australian freedom. Freedom that is slowly being erroded by immigration. Our ideals are being diluted and poisened. Over 70,000 died for Australia in WW1 and Over 40,000 died for Australia in WW2. The immigrants disrespect my grandfather’s generation and the civilisation they built. We have so much to be proud of as Australian’s, including our tolerance. That tolerance has gone too far now and is being abused, thrown in our faces, used against us in economic warfare.

We need to unite, become vocal in your beliefs and pride as Australians. Bring back the Aussie mateship. It is time to stand up for this land and reclaim our moral right to be proud Australians and stand against immigration.

April 11th, 2006 at 9:39 pm

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Brad, perhaps if you read your bible then rather than listen to sermons or reading book with similar views to the ones you just expressed you would be a tad less extreme, and a little more christian.

April 12th, 2006 at 1:03 am

rachy

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I agree with Chris on this one

but no imigration anywhere from anywhere, all countries would have better relations i beleive if it was this way

do you live in a fairy castle by any chance?

April 12th, 2006 at 1:38 am

keith anderson

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I guess you guys are right but reading some of your comments I guess you aussies are really racist. After all a convict mentality will never change if it hasnt in the last couple of centuries. I am sure christanity doesnt teach you to abuse the prophets of other religeons does it? I am sure the mulsim radical gangs do not represent the vast majority of muslim masses. Regarding the non white ommigrants, your comment is quite interesting,, have you ever pondered what the convict colonisers did to the native people of Australia? How can you justify your reasoning when you do not practice equality yourself,, just my thoughts

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

Here’s an example. On TV the other night a Policeman pulled up a woman wearing full muslim regalia. Could only see her eyes…just. He asked her to remove her headwear (which she refused) so that he could identify her…..and she swore abused profaned him. Called him racist. HELLO…..UNDER THE GUISE OF OUR LAWS THEY GET AWAY WITH SUCH THINGS. The Policeman was civil. The woman was so rude. Then at the court case her band of followers chanted “God is Great”. Give me a break. These wankers should all be lined up against a wall and flogged. They are idiots and should be treated accordingly.

April 23rd, 2006 at 7:14 pm

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And naturally, you Keith can extrapolate the smartalec comments of a handful of people into the sentiments of an entire continent…

IF you can point out where in the Death Cult’s little black book it says it’s just kidding about commanding its followers to hate Christians, Jews, and other infidels, and to make war upon them until islam dominates the earth… well, then we’ll talk.
Incidentally, how many of those same commenters actually identified themselves as Christian? Not enough for you to label them all as such. Who’s projecting now, Keith?

As for me, I won’t take anything seriously from a group of people who want to blow me up because I won’t follow their rules for shitting.

April 23rd, 2006 at 7:50 pm

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Well said Stewed.

You know what pisses me off the most about Keith’s pomposity? The fact that he thinks that not liking Islam makes people racist. Jesus that shits me when people are just too bloody thick to be able to tell the difference between a race of people and a religion. Unless of course he is talking about Brad, who was derided as a fool almost immediately.

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

And that’s the thing. Islam is a religious culture. You cannot take the religion out of the person or the person out of the religion. Islam says anyone who does not follow Islam is the enemy and all enemies should be killed. How kind, peaceful and christian is Islam? PLEASE….WHAT A JOKE.

April 24th, 2006 at 1:13 am

keith anderson

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Just came back to the board. Thanks for your thoughts. It is always better to understand a religeon and then open up with your outbursts. Islam never advocates making war and killing infidals. The literature is availabe in English as well. Keeping the politics and media hype aside, no one is allowed to make war unless war is thrown upon them and injustice is served. As soon as these conditions are over, there is no justification of war. And remember, no killing of women and children is ever advocated. Those who condone it are the source of misunderstanding and a justifiable reaction from other communities. But do try to differentitate between personal conduct of a cult and the religeon. I think if we respect each other for our faith we can create a better world to live and let our next generation live in peace,,,,

May 9th, 2006 at 6:52 pm

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Islam never advocates making war and killing infidals

Sadly you are mistaken. There are many quotes from the Koran on this forum, more than enough to rebuke your statement.

The problem is, that at its very core at its very foundation, Islam is violent. Sure there are people within it who have risen above (or evolved if you prefer) the violent roots of their cult, but sadly there are many who have not.

Perhaps you might like to tell me all the Islamic countries that live happily side by side with other religions. I am sure you might dig up a few but not many.

But do try to differentitate between personal conduct of a cult and the religeon

Oh I do. I see violence and hatred spewing from Islam on a daily basis and I see the vast majority of “peaceful” Muslims saying little and doing even less about it.

I am not a Christian or for that matter am I an adherent to any religion, but if I were and it went feral, you can be assured I would no longer support it. Islam on the other hand seems to be prospering, attracting all manner of violent reprobates with more desire to slaughter than to better themselves via a religious belief.

Islam is not, never has been never will be a religion of peace.

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

Well said Patrick. Where are the peaceful “Muslims”. You never hear them speaking out publicly against their evil terrorist counterparts. Muslims are disgusting. Here in Australia we tolerate their customs, their clothing, their mosques etc. If I went to Iran and paraded around in shorts and singlet in their hot climate with no headwear, wearing lipstick, I would be stoned to death. (And no I am not that ugly). It is just they do not tolerate our ways. So why in God’s name, should we tolerate theirs?

May 12th, 2006 at 11:56 am

brad

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Im not trying to start wars, id like them not to happen, especially cival wars in my own country/back yard, cival wars usually occur because of corrupt governments or the other main reason is fights between, different races, cultures or religions, however to my knoweledge every religion so far that has come to Australia, such as Jewish and Budist have respected our laws and that we are a mainly christian country and they have no motives, Jews for example were fleeing from hitler. The muslims, terrorists or not, will never accept our rule, the muslim leader of australia was prodicting in 50 years this could be a muslim nation and it was posted over the news and made alot of aussies angry, he said its becasue we have to few children while muslims are happy to have many and alot are immigrating here.
The bible and coran says to go around the world and spread the gods message but only muslims do this by way of perswasion/invasion rather than sending missionaries, there trying to outbreed us for crying out loud how low is that, they dont send people or have charities in africa or asia to help poor people and give them a connection with god to make their life better they just want domination of the developed world tell me that isnt evil thinking.

Im suspicious that they may be trying to enact revenge becasue of the past where the chrsitian west used to war with the middle east muslims, back then however if you treid to sail into a county or go over the border they would arrest you and torture you for answers. Now we give them visas instead and let them fly in first class if they please. But they havnt forgot the past only we try to, i bet their leaders are still carying out for now what is a silent war, and so far, WERE loosing becasue of people like some of you who want to pretend everyone in the world is good and should hold hands, you must understand their are people that hate you just because you are born western they dont care if you tolerate them.

Im not saying every muslim is this way, there has been on news that in their muslim bookshops, and they have public meetings where a speaker or author tries to influence the others to beleive whatever they want like to wipe out the west, this is where they get brainwashed into becomming human bombs. And it doesnt even happen in the Middle East anymore they can be trained here because they have their own schools, mosks, bookshops and almost their own suburbs now. You and our government has no idea what they could be up to but theirs evidence that its not good for us so were stupid for letting them in and thinking that there gonna play nice, I know their playing to win and theirs no spotmanship.

I know your trying to be good tolerant citizens but dont expect the favour returned, instead expect a baseball bat to your thick skull when they move into your suburb.

ps im all up for a friendly debate sry if i sound rude

May 15th, 2006 at 6:06 pm

bob

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fuck all you aussie jew loving motherfuckers, the muslims are going to dominate and eradicate every last one of you motherfuckers. get back to animal farm you half breed jews.

feathers Reply:
September 20th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

Well didn’t you just prove our point of hatred and retarded muslim thinking!!!!

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

My point exactly. You Bob are a living example of the hatred Muslims exude all day every day. So much for peaceful Muslims.

True Blue Reply:
March 4th, 2012 at 4:04 am

This is typical of Muslims in forums all over the internet. More ofter than not, they incite hate.

Do we want this sort of violence in Australia?

I say – GET OUT!

May 24th, 2006 at 8:11 pm

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bob seems to have an inferiority complex..:mrgreen:

May 24th, 2006 at 9:24 pm

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bob, I maybe a Jew but I sure don’t smell like you do. Aren’t Muslims supposed to be tolerant and peace-loving?

May 24th, 2006 at 11:09 pm

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Wow Bob, a visit from a genuine dyed in the wool fair dinkum fuck wit.

I myself am not a Jew, nor do I actually know any in real life, having said that though looking at the history of the two religions (or one religion and one cult) I know who I would rather live next door to.

No wonder there are such problems in England with such big hearted souls like you in it.

May 24th, 2006 at 11:52 pm

bob

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and brad you can fuck off too, shouldn’t you be at the beach with a barbie and a couple of sheila’s, fucking summer bay motherfuckers,
and australia is made up of of the shit that england spat out, criminals, peodo’s, and jews, how does it feel to have such a strong legacy

feathers Reply:
September 20th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

Bob, language please, actually Australia had very little criminals from England, criminals who were sent here for stealing a slice of bread to feed their family. Oh dear !! It’s made up of decent people, something you know nothing about. Go away!!!

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:40 pm

I am English Bob. Not from convict stock but it wouldn’t bother me if I was. Most convicts were sent out for petty crimes like trying to steal bread because they were dying from hunger. And speaking of pedophiles…..hello…..check the males in Islam. They have sexual intercourse with children under the age of 13. You make make me sick with your hypocrisy Bob. As for criminals……look at the terrorists and what they did at 9/11. Look at the women and children as well as men and boys that were killed in that episode. You Bob are deranged. You are mentally not grounded. Look at the garbage that Islams spews out. Training camps for terrorists. You will be the losers. Not us. In the Bible it says “Thou shalt not Kill”. There is nothing wrong with Jews. They are a financially intelligent and very capable race of people. They do not run around with bombs on their backs blowing up their own people and others. You Bob need to take a good long look at yourself and the people you associate with. You are a prize ASS.

May 25th, 2006 at 12:17 am

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Poor old Bob can’t read either!

May 25th, 2006 at 12:21 am

bob

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pat, gooday mate! enjoyed some swine fucking then? bet you taught that pig a thing or two?

May 25th, 2006 at 12:36 am

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Bye, bye bob.

May 25th, 2006 at 12:02 pm

Ginger

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Bye bye Bob however not without a word of advice, I am of the opinion that you should for your own sake see a psychiatrist with view to seeking hospitalisation before you do something that lands you behind bars for the rest of your life.

May 26th, 2006 at 3:28 pm

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Probably best to ignore Bob. His kind thrive on attention, like a spoilt little snotty nosed kid.

May 26th, 2006 at 3:37 pm

VegemiteToast

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bob has issues

August 1st, 2006 at 2:41 pm

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Serious issues Vegemite! Like most peace lovin Muzzies.

August 1st, 2006 at 3:15 pm

Tim

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I go away for a few hours, come back, and find I’ve been missing all the fun!

August 1st, 2006 at 6:51 pm

VegemiteToast

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hey guys…I’m doing a research topic on muslim immigration into australia..and i get the message that u guys dont like it so if you could do me a massive favour and give a short explanantion on new laws you would impose to prevent muslim extremists entering australia..if you cant be bothered its all good..but it’d great if you could…cheers

August 2nd, 2006 at 2:48 pm

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I I would love to help you Vegemite, but there is only one answer to the question, and it’s a moot point. There is no way to stop them coming in, and in fact the only measure that might prevent a lot of them is to stop immigration from Middle eastern or majority Muslim nations. Even that is no guarantee. I see nothing what so ever that can be done in reality. Talk, discussions and general all round gob fests will do nothing but result in John Citizen being penalised in case he might be a terrorist.

This is an all new situation and one that will probably never end. The thing that I find most fascinating about the current dilemma is that the political “left” seem to defend the fanatical morons at every opportunity. This tells me that the left thinks that by currying favour with the fanatics that they might be spared having their heads cut off with a rusty knife. The idiots don’t seem to realise that the fanatics see them as every bit the infidel as everyone else and every bit as deserving of death. All the while the non existent Moderate Muslim sits by and watches.

August 3rd, 2006 at 1:26 am

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Easy. Shoot them dead on site.

Send out warnings all over the world telling them that they will be shot on site if they come here and tell them this is the only warning, the judges decision is final and no correspondenced will be entered into.

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

LOL…..love you Tiberius. Couldn’t agree more. LOL….

August 3rd, 2006 at 9:46 am

Ari

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i can’t see our governments ever introducing a ban on muslim immigration, even if a temporary ban until the current international situation cools down, is really the common sense response.

a recent poll in the UK found that ~10% of all UK muslims believe terrorism is ok. Amongst UK muslim youths the proportion is higher. 31% believed that last year’s rail bombings were justified.

to see the poll visit here.

even if these figures exaggerate the pro-terrorist views of UK muslims, say the reality is only half what these polls report, then the UK now has a massive internal and public security problem. the cost in dollar terms and in terms of the loss of civil liberties in the need to protect society will be massive. there is obvious an enormous problem of alienation of the muslim population from the rest of the country. unfortunately in the UK the problem has been allowed to grow to the extent that all talk of ‘increased tolerance and understanding’ is largely ious nonsense. until things turn around, due to assimilation and an improvement in the international situation, it seems to me to be reasonable to demand an immigration prohibition, perhaps for 15-20 years or so, as a useful starting point. it would buy time to encourage the assimilation of the existing muslim population. without population replenishment from abroad a degree of assimilation is enforced.

will modern western governments impose the kind of policies required? unfortunately that is unlikely to happen without a revolution in media and elite attitudes to multiculturalism.

it’s these groups that control the policy making process, not the mass of the population. these can be seen by looking at the polls. in most western countries opinion polls show that the majority of the population adopt a more nationalist (or as the media would say ‘xenophobic’) attitude on questions of immigration. despite this the majority’s nationalist views are rarely turned into an ongoing political force.

presumably this happens in supposedly ‘representative democracies’ because opinions and voting patterns do not always match. presumably most people are unwilling to change thteir voting habits based on this issue alone, so as a result the more multiculturalist elite wins out. you may get Le Pen or Hansonite ‘rebellions’ but they aren’t sustained and are often overturned. either that or the political system of the democracies is just not as representative as we have been led to believe.

elite groups, despite their professions of love for democracy, fear public opinion and fear referendums on controversial subjects more than anything else. there needs to be a referendum on an issue that will shape our society for generations to come.

August 13th, 2006 at 2:22 am

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Banning muslim immigration even for the short term, is unlikly to work. They will lie.

August 13th, 2006 at 10:36 am

Nathan

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Islam is evil and if it is so great, why is there the mass immigration from Muslim Nations to the West? I don’t see Americans flocking to these nations moving there and blowing things up. Name one fully democratic Muslim state in the world? Jordan? U.A.E., please…… Turkey is about as close as you can get, and they are merely trying to get into the European Union for economical reasons. All Muslims should be rounded up as non-violently as possible and deported to the muslim country of there choice. Then they don’t have to be forced to be around us infidels. They can go on killing each other until there are none of them left. We need to wake up…. We went to arms against Hitler and Nazism and this is a much greater threat. No more excuses. Wake up people….. even the ones here that claim to be peaceful, would in the face of a muslim attack or takeover side with there bretheren. American-Muslims were mad Bush used the term Islamic Fascism..? Tough titty….. get the hell out and back to where you feel you would be more well treated and stop trying to force us to accept ideology against our founding principles. Those on the Left that disagree…I wish I had a time machine and could take you into a future where Islam dominated the west. Then you could see if they plan on letting your sons and daughters be free. Like I said, one has to look no further than ANY Islamic country or regime on Earth to get a glimpse of what they would have in store for us and our future. I do not advocate violence first and that is why I dont just say, blow up there Mosques and murder them where they stand…..I believe they should be deported to THEIR CHOICE of muslim country. It is getting to a point that there will be a violent uprising and Islam will be crushed indefinitely. How do we allow muslims and non-muslim sympathizers to protest against us openly in our streets and throw 9-11 and other tragedies in our faces? Then they have the nerve to say they are being treated unjustly? American Muslims are the most well treated, best living in the world. They get away with things that would get their throughts cut and there heads chopped off in their homelands. Read up on Muhammad. (death be upon him). He was a child-molesting, war-mongering ingrate. he was not a prophet or messenger but rather converted with violence and death. Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a wolf with a sword in sheeps clothing. Islam means “submit”…. As we can see through world events, these devils are hell bent on making us submit, or die….just like their founding father.

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:45 pm

They are on the move to western civilisation for one reason only. Muslim domination worldwide. They have six kids to our two. They have 3 wives compared to our 1. They are trying to outbreed us. Do not let them have more than one wife. Criminal.

August 15th, 2006 at 4:52 am

Chris

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And by the way…… i dare one of you Muslim pig coward son-of-a-bitches to respond back. I believe all of your sympathizers should be deported with you. I guess we do have something in common after all….you hate us and I hate you motherfuckers too….

August 15th, 2006 at 4:57 am

Chris

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Very simple…..like Nathan said…. all Muslims should be rounded up as non-violently as possible and given their choice of Islamic country to be deported to. (if there was any resistance, the agitator should be shot and killed on sight. The rumor of this would ensure that the majority would comply.) This may seem violent but I assure you, that this would save lives over the long run on both sides. Plus it is more humane than Westerners would be treated in Muslim lands. After they are deported, no immigration should be allowed without an individual months long screening process. (This may seem expensive, but it is cheaper than building things they have destroyed, or having to go over to their lands to kick their asses back into shape). Visitors coming over for business reasons only would be allowed. (this would be extensively verified through a series of checks and balances). Also, until democracy spread through the Middle East, Israel should be guarded and protected at all costs, even if it means nuclear war. Democracy would eventually spread through the Middle East for two reasons….first, we stop buying their oil. We can export from Canada and other Western nations with oil reserves, and America would have to start drilling in Alaska (to hell with the beautiful polar bears and ice wolves, every effort should be made to relocate them, but if it comes down to us or them….Im choosing people) After we seriously cut our dependance on their oil, their governments would collapse as most Arab/Islamic countries have little more to export than rugs and vases (and I guess we could start getting those things at Wal-Mart!) After the people rise up against these governments that we prop up, and after enough blood is shed, and they bomb themsleves back into the stone ages, they will be dying to rejoin the public forum. They will want to re-enter the World system, and work with their neighbors instead of with threats of force. When cancer enters the body, whether it is active or inactive, it still must be cut out with a scalpel. Dormant spots can become active at a moments notice and ususally undetected. Anything can trigger this response. Cancer must be cut out (deported) and then treated with radiation (nuclear) to fully eradicate it from the body.

August 15th, 2006 at 5:12 am

Nathan

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I am curious….I have read some really mean things on here that some Muslims are writing…..I wonder where they live? I bet you it is either America, England, France, Australia, or some other country where they have freedom of speech….If it is so great back in those muslim lands, pack your shit up and hurry and get over there. And as far as Islam dominating the world? Islam cant dominate the lands it already has control over. They still kill each other everyday over there. You dont hear about Christians, Jews or Hindus killing themselves anywhere in the world. Its always you dumb fucks. And I am an American. If my homeland or the homeland of any other freedom loving, democracy-practicing people was invaded or in any danger of falling to muslim rule, I would fight you motherfuckers with every last breath, till every last drop of blood has drained into the Earth. You are cowards, backward-believing, God-hating bastards and you deserve to die if you mean any harm to me or mine.

August 15th, 2006 at 5:22 am

jason

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I really wish more people would think like Nathan and some of the others. Muslims are trying to destroy us. Why should we let in people whose idea’s are in complete conflict with our current traditions. I don’t want to live in a Muslim state. I find their way of life primitive and it is disgusting how they treat their women. I was never a racist or prejudice, but I find myself fed up with muslims and Islam. It is an evil that must be stopped. These people pose a serious threat to our future, and we need to act now. I’m sick of everyone apologizing and working with the Muslims, they need to be completely removed from Australia, Europe and America. We will never get along with Muslims and the ones who “say” they are peaceful truly believe in the extremists cause. We need to get organized and unite against this great evil. Where do I sign up.

October 8th, 2006 at 8:28 am

conan

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do you know how many have been put to death in the name of christianity. or that popes during the middle ages claimed that masturbation was worse than incest or rape because with the latter two there was still a chance of procreation? all religion is screwed up in some way or another and its the people who become fundamentalist extremists (yes these exist in the christian faith as well) that ruin it for the majority. and stop acting as if this country is for white people only. in case you forgot there were aborigines living here with extensive trade routes,languages and an entire culture of their own for 40000 years before we arrived and commited our own attrocities. and for the record, muslims were arriving here on some of the first boats. muslim immigration has existed from day one.

October 18th, 2006 at 11:00 am

Sasha

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I agree with conan
Untill yoo know every muslim in the world wants to destroy western society or even despise it, i refuse to believe that every muslim is out to get us because it is a very small minority like conan said that ruins it for the majority.
Most are peaceful but what do yoo think happens when they try to speak out ?
The extremists kill not only them but their whole family and who would want that ?
Alot of people say that we cant tell which ones are the good people and which are the bad but that happens in every society, culture, race.
As for all that talk about mohamad or whatever being a peodophile well i guess yes he was.
But what about all those catholic priests who molest young children ?
I dont think any major religion teaches evil, many just teach to love god and do good things for others before ourselves.
This is something that i think everyone should live by but of course theres a few who want to be different and take over the world or whatever.
Thing is that even if yoo ban all muslims coming into this country, your just going to create more problems than we already have.
Its just the way the cookie crumbles.

True Blue Reply:
March 4th, 2012 at 4:20 am

It’s YOU not YOO.

I would rather Christian morals as opposed to Muslim, however extremist religious movements are never positive towards society.

October 21st, 2006 at 8:55 pm

rachy

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The extremists kill not only them but their whole family and who would want that ?

That’s exactly why I condemn the concept of collective guilt. However, we do have a problem in Western societies of Muslim immigrants blatantly condoning the acts of terrorists. I say if terrorists and their sympathisers don’t like it in their adopted countries, then just leave. Where is the moral outrage of the peaceful majority of Muslims in societies like Australia, the US and Western Europe?

Nonetheless, ascribing collective guilt to a whole community is not going to get us anywhere. We need to weed out the violent minority, but the feeling of many Australians is that we need the help of the non-violent majority.

I think the mainstream media might also be to blame here. Drama sells newspapers. Reporting on the peaceful majority does not sell newspapers, reporting on the acts of a violent minority does.

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

Rachy, I did a school paper on “Honor Killings”. Where a male member of a muslim family tortured and murdered his daughter. There were many other incidences of this too. What sort of a religious culture does this. Definitely not right in the head.

October 21st, 2006 at 9:11 pm

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But what about all those catholic priests who molest young children ?

Pedophile Catholic priests are reviled by society, and are being called on to face justice for their crimes. They’re certainly not held up as exemplary of a model person, perfect in every way, like islam does with mohammad. (pb&j)
Catholics aren’t anywhere near a majority of Christianity either, yet every time a legitimate criticism is raised of THE role model for islamic culture, these same couple dozen criminal priests are trotted out as if that makes everyone equal.
The Catholic church is under ever-increasing pressure from all corners of society to render it’s bad elements unto Caesar, wheras even a negative cartoon about mohammad is cause for a riot.
Am I defending these criminal priests? No – far from it. But you cannot excuse any of islam’s myriad flaws by pointing at someone else and saying “well, they’re not perfect either.”

I dont think any major religion teaches evil, many just teach to love god and do good things for others before ourselves.

You need to re-read the 9th sura of the koran a little closer. It’s full of xenophobia, hatred, and yes, evil.

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:49 pm

Catholic priests who molest young children should be castrated and isolated. They are disgusting. And all true caring people would say the same. Not the same with Muslims. The peaceloving ones don’t speak out…..

Rachy Reply:
June 26th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

Alas the Catholic Church remains largely silent

October 22nd, 2006 at 11:21 am

Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon

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ATTN NATHAN AND ALL:

“”I wish I had a time machine and could take you into a future where Islam dominated the west. “”

Spot on

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

Ibrahim you are suffering from “Delusions of Grandeur”. Wake the f…k up!!! It won’t happen.

October 22nd, 2006 at 12:56 pm

Sasha

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Reporting on the peaceful majority does not sell newspapers, reporting on the acts of a violent minority does.

I agree rachy
Yoo hit the nail on the head with that one.
=]
Im thinking thats how to do it haha

And stewd hamm, my mums muslim and some of her friends are too and ive discussed mohamad with them and they most certainly do not think he is perfect.

They dont worship mohamad, they worship god.

October 22nd, 2006 at 9:56 pm

Sasha

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To be fair there is a section in the bible which says something along the lines of if adulterers are found they should be taken and stoned to death. This is NOT advice on what should be done, it’s just a recounting of the law at that time.

Maybe the part of the Koran being debated is a similar thing?

Anyway it’s not a matter of religion it’s a matter of intelligence. Anyone who reads a book which instructs them to kill someone else should logically think “hmmm that’s crap… killing people is bad…. I will not follow these instructions” If they don’t they are the guilty one, the individual is responsible, not the book.

Just something i thought i add.
=]

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:51 pm

No this is not the case. In muslim countries they still stone people to death. In christian countries they do not.

October 22nd, 2006 at 10:19 pm

brian

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Please australians…………. we cant go on believing the rest of the world is as innocent as we are… we have a responsability to the world to be a beacon of hope.
That doesnt mean a place to emigrate to inorder to stuff up. That means a model these failing bastardised third world countries can follow.

They will need thousands of years to catch up… so lets give them time. SELECTIVE IMMIGRATION.. if you cant join our culture, then you are not welcome here.

Use your voice and vote guys.. we can still save australia!

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

Hi Brian. It is great to be a beacon of hope ….so long as we don’t get blown up in the process by these mad hatters.

True Blue Reply:
March 4th, 2012 at 4:26 am

Agreed, very selective.

Lets drop the rate from 300,000 to 5,000 and only take the skilled workers we need.

Encourage people to breed. The current rate of immigration far outweighs the natural birth rate. Don’t you think this is wrong?

October 28th, 2006 at 3:47 pm

Hayley

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Please do not let Muslims into Australia. Same with other races which do not want to mix and be part of the Australian lifestyle. Take note at what’s happening in Europe since we left the flood gates open… Protests by thousands of so-called ‘moderate’ muslims i all major cities in the UK, holding banners saying ” behead all those who attack Islam”, “IKill all those who insult Mohamed” etc.. As we were rightly told by a member of our government, if a white person did the same thing in the street in reference to Islam/Muslims we would get taken to court and sentenced for sure. Why double standards? Why do France let those Asian thugs get away with burning cars and houses because they want ‘better housing, better schools” etc. They demand a lot for doing very little except cause destruction. Ofcourse, this is generalisation, and I;m sure there are many exceptions to the rule. However, I am talking about a mind-set. These people come from countries very very different to ours with a very different mentality and YOU WILL NOT CHANGE THAT FOR MANY MANY GENERATIONS. It hasn’t changed for thousands of years in their countries so why should it change now? All religions are dangerous when taken too seriously, and the Muslim religion is at a very early stage of ‘development’ . It’s still very antiquated and written in it’s time for its time and many people take the readings literally. I have read much of the Koran and there any hundreds of references to violence against non-muslims. including decapitation….. In my view, integration with certain people will never occur or will take the hell of a lot of struggle and problems. Don’t think that Australia can do better then the UK or other European countries. Learn by their mistakes and don’t let those that hate the west into our culture. Let’s keep what we love and don’t let it be destroyed by others. By the way, I can’t check this website for comments on my comment because I came accross it by chance and I’m too busy to reply further!! Cheers. P.S. Over the last 6 years, 90% of people I have worked with have been Asian, mostly of muslim background, so I’m also talking from experience. Many are nice people, but their core beliefs are often scary.

November 3rd, 2006 at 11:04 pm

KOALA

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While I agree and sympathise with many of the views expressed here, unfortunately you are all falling into the same trap as Pauline Hanson. You just cannot single out any particular religion or race and expect to make progress in this day and age. All migrants whether it be a wealthy Pom or a refugee from Africa are diluting our culture, overcrowding our cities, destroying our environment and in my opinion, simply making life that little bit harder for all of us.
350 new faces every day. That’s a bloody disgrace!

November 13th, 2006 at 11:10 am

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Hi Koala!

It’s a bit hard to maintain your argument when the Aussie culture came from the Poms. I don’t think people from like cultured nations (Britain, the US, Canada most of Europe) are social problems.

Islam is a social problem. It is not compatible with the western way.

November 14th, 2006 at 8:44 am

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Hey! Mr Mooselim You can’t go to your mooselim paradise unless you’re on jihad. Read your demonic koran. Sura 9:5 the verse of sword. more than 100 verses in a demonic kora advocation the use of violence to spread your cult religion, 123 verses about the killing and figthing in your very wonderful religion of piecies(cuttings and beheadings of humans into piecies) , sura 19:17-every mooselim will go to mooselim hell, just like your self appointed lone profit named moomoo who was declared to to be a sinner( sura 40:55). Do not believe momoo, he is a pedophile (child molester), rapist, original terrorist of his own tribe quoraish, cold blooded killer, illiterate, woman hater, plunderer you name it its all their.Do not worhip allah, the moongod(it is moomoo the allah himself and he cannot performed miracles (sura-13:7) and he disqualifies himself as a true self-proclaimed/appointed lone profit of Hizzzlamm!!.he never talked to your allah he invented it, you are being fooled by this illiterate madman.read your demonic koran its all in there.If you are “a good mooselim”.. you have to obey your demonic koran –which is to kill and kill :The usual meaning of Islam in Arabic is not”peace”(its only when you’re dead, there’s peace in mooselim hell) but “submission”. :devil:

February 19th, 2007 at 7:37 am

jonathan

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Stop the influx of muslims. They all attribute to the fact that the the Holocost did not occur, that the Jewish race should be finished, and that their rule of religon should be accepted.
They are animals who rely on terror of harming innocent people, there migration to Australia from lebanon and other countries should be STOPPED!!!

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

They are dangerous disgusting people who need to be stopped now….before they do more damage.

March 3rd, 2007 at 1:19 am

fuckhead

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australia is full of fuckwits, and that’s a fact, don’t let them arrogant egocentric full of themselves tell you anything else. I’ve been there and done that. They are fuckin up themselves, stupid cunts :sleeping:

True Blue Reply:
March 4th, 2012 at 4:30 am

The name says it all!

March 9th, 2007 at 7:44 pm

Volodya

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Of course a simple linear extrapolation of the present demographic trends into the future paints a dreary picture. It will be a bleak future in which none of us will want to live, dominated by the followers of jihad, a future of total decline of culture, morality, science and technology. A global Taliban.

Fortunately, such simple linear extrapolations don’t normally come true. Something will happen to stem the terrible course of developments, I am quite sure – andit will be something totally unexpected.

In the early XIX century there were real worries about dealing with great amounts of horse manure produced by the growing street traffic. Where are these worries now? The problem of “global warming” will go the same way, and, hopefully, that of civilised peoples being submerged (willingly!) by the nation of jihad, too.

The question is, what do we do to solve the problem fast, without having to live through several centuries of New Dark Ages?

Here I think Australia is ahead of the pack, save perhaps the United States, and the first step is obviously a cardinal reform of the immigration system: not taking in any more “refugees”, to begin with. Based on what I’ve heard, we have Little John on our side, but his hands are largely tied behind his back.

March 15th, 2007 at 2:57 am

Anonymous

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Until 2001, Australia was sympathetic to the cause but was not directly affected by terrorism.

Recently, cultural factors (such as religion, language and national origins) have been more strongly emphasised. It is an intrinsic human characteristic to preserve one’s own culture and exclude “aliens”.

And for all the people who feel “strongly” about this topic, and feel they must insult others or use inappropriate language, you prove yourselves to be inferior to others, and you must just be insecure. I sympathise for you.

And with that, i leave the following statement for you all to contemplate…

Racism is not just a ‘colour’ issue, but it is so much more.

True Blue Reply:
March 4th, 2012 at 4:37 am

Stop with the guilt trip, we have all had enough.

It is not racist to want to stop immigration. To imply this truly shows you lack an understanding of what is happening to Australia.

You are mixing up religion with race, two very different things.

You must feel so good to be all high and mighty on your moral high ground.

Why don’t you have a say, rather than sitting on the fence. Typical do-gooder, you do more damage then good!

August 21st, 2007 at 8:37 pm

Anonymous

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Me again
just wanted to leave these statistics…

Rise of Muslim Population: 1991-2001 (showing percentage of national total)
1991 – Muslim 148,096; 0.9% / Christian 12,466,836; 74%
1996 – Muslim 200,902; 1.1% / Christian 12,582,771; 70%
2001 – Muslim 281,578; 1.5% / Christian 12,764,342; 67%
Source: Australian Bureau of Statistics: Census of Population and Housing

August 21st, 2007 at 8:43 pm

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I am not sure what point you are trying to make Anon.

The person who wrote this article no longer writes with us, and is most unlikely to reply. You can find her here.

August 22nd, 2007 at 12:45 pm

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Patrick, I think he trying to illustrate that all this anti-muzzie “racism” is a bit of over-reaction considering the low percentage population growth of people who identify themselves as muslim as compared to those who identify themselves as Christian. I would be interested to see how the trend has progressed since the last listed figures from 2001.

Smudge Reply:
December 1st, 2010 at 9:58 pm

Theres only a few whitemen, thats probably what the Aboriginals said 200 plus years ago.

August 22nd, 2007 at 1:48 pm

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Apparently, looking at the 2006 stats, muzzies still make-up less than 3% of the population, as they didn’t even make the list shown here.

August 22nd, 2007 at 2:05 pm

Aladdin

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This highly offends me.

My mother was shot and killed.

Everyone in my family was denied access to Australia except myself and my 6 year old sister.

I find it difficult to find employment because i am a Muslim.

We have no food or water.

John Howard spat on us.

Smudge Reply:
December 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm

Maybe you should go back to your own people if you don’t like Aus.

August 22nd, 2007 at 2:29 pm

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It only illustrates the point Joe. If there are so few of them…..why do they make so many problems?

August 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pm

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Aladdin, I am sorry that your mother was shot and killed (you didn’t mention by whom). However, I find your vitriol toward Howard a bit misapplied. Coming to Australia is a PRIVILEGE, not a right. Rather than directing your anger toward a nation and its leader – neither of which is obligated in any way, shape, or form to lift a single finger to help you whatsoever – you should direct your anger toward the nation and the culture from which you came. If it was so good there, you would not have left, correct?

Can’t you go to your local mosque and find some of that world-reknowned muslim charity to help you out in your time of need? Blame your muslim brothers for making your life a mess, not John Howard.

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:56 pm

Very well spoken.

August 24th, 2007 at 11:01 am

Person with a purpose

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DON’T VOTE FOR RUDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHATEVER YOU DO DON’T VOTE FOR HIM

HE WILL SCREW US ALL OVER

AUSTRALIA HAS HAD THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC BOOM EVER SINCE HOWARD HAS BEEN IN GOVERNMENT!

DON’T BRING OUR COUNTRY TO AN INSTANT DEATH

October 17th, 2007 at 11:23 pm

Francoise

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I’d like to ask Muslims what mental gymnastics do they perform to believe that a murderous, looting, narcissistic paedophile was a holy prophet of God?

October 18th, 2007 at 7:44 am

Abduhl

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murderous, looting, narcissistic paedophiles are the best kind

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Wipe your ass and give your brain some stimulation.

October 20th, 2007 at 6:31 pm

jim

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i don’t understand…
i know nothing about muslim culture orchristain culture …frankly i don’t care for any religion and i’m cool with that but i don’t critise or bash anyone because they have a faith ……the way i see is that people are people there are good and bad in all cultures. You don’t generalise and judge on race and religion ..are u fucking spazztic… its the qualities of a the person that u judge. Diversity is what australia needs…and our immigration laws are in need of serious reform….humanity need not squabble over petty matters…instead we should be supportive to migrants that arrive here, integration of differening perspectives sparks new thought inovationand enteprise as well as economic growth. I think the government should provide better programs to support and help these people adjust.

For fucks sake we all have multiple overlapping and increasingly self defined identities. AS an Australian may also be a muslim, of Iraqi orgin, a resident of Perth, a doctor , a sports lover, a dovoted farther and husband, a supporter of gay rights , an environmentalist and, above all an individual – Gregory Hywood

so get a damm clue and stop being so outdated. i find it ridiculous that anyone can suggest banning people because of religion …i’m sorryy but that is ridiculous…. ? thats just what i believe ? PEACE OUT

November 7th, 2007 at 5:48 pm

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It would be so difficult to ban Muslim immigration, because they will simply lie. They will say they have converted to Christianity or whatever. I don’t think it is possable to enforce sadly.

This is correct. One solution however is that people simply sign a declaration stating that they are not Muslims and by signing the document, they agree to be deported if this is found to be untrue.

November 19th, 2007 at 10:16 am

James Arnett

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These are the same moronic arguments Hitler made against the Jews in 1938. If you think it’s okay to “ban” or “purge” Australia of any group of people, YOU are the terrorist threat against everything the West fought and died to preserve. You’re not patriots, you’re just garden-variety bigots.

Smudge Reply:
December 1st, 2010 at 10:11 pm

Up to a point James is correct, the difference between Jews & Muslims is that Muslims want to take over our country by out-breeding us, that is there objective, that is the reason to limit their immigration numbers.

March 6th, 2008 at 11:50 am

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While I don’t completely disagree with what you’re saying James, I would be interested to see any documented evidence you may have that Jews cut off German peoples heads, blew up babies, and were generally a threat to the German way of life in the years leading up to WW2.

March 6th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

a muslim who attends a christian school

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i an a muslim who attends a christian school and i not that it was my parents choice to send me there. i go to the church with the school at least 3 times a year and i trully respect your beliefs. i dont understand y u have to be so racist to muslims. you couldnt even pick one out if they werent wearing a head scarf. if you think that you could than you must think that your god because i dont think that i could even pick one out.

i dont believe in god, i believe in allah. and i dont worship muhammed, he was our prophet . i worship allah and allah only.
and its time you people put this in your heads that no devoted muslim will change their religion for your and if there was an australia without muslims then you would have to kill or kick the ones already living hear out. then you will be doin what u complain muslims do KILL. you have killed the native people of this land the aborigines. and soon you will start to do the same thing to us.

barack obama is muslim and he has a very high possibility of becoming the next president of the U.S peole love him.

muslims will always fight for what they believe in.

ALLAH HO AKBER!!!!!!!

LONG LIVE THE MUSLIM POPULATION OF THE WORLD!!!!!

March 28th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

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i dont understand y u have to be so racist to muslims

The near-50% grammar and spelling errors aside, somebody please explain how being anti-Muslim is racist? Since when is Muslim a race? Last time I checked, there were only 3 races of the species homosapien, biologically speaking: Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. Beyond those three categories, what is often referred to as a “race” is actually “ethnicity.” That type of malappropism is the product of two generations of institutional brainwashing.

Again, sorry to be pedantic, but when faced with such a specious and facile argument so ill-worded from a seemingly illiterate pundit, I had to get that out of the way because the rest of it is not worth addressing. If your parents are paying for that education at the Christian school, they should demand a refund.

March 31st, 2008 at 5:37 am

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Why bother Joe? I think what we have here is a kid who is muslim coz it pisses his (or her) parents off.

Not worth wasting time on frankly.

March 31st, 2008 at 12:22 pm

a muslim who attends a christian school

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there are bad muslims but there are also bad christians

April 7th, 2008 at 8:18 pm

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This is true, however Christians are not usually “bad” in the name of their religion.

Gee I can’t remember the last time I heard about a Christian hacking of someones head with a knife for Jesus.

Can you?

Brian Warner Reply:
October 6th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

Er….. you want to rethink that Patrick? One of the other threads on your blog is about the shankill butchers. Their crimes were commited in the name of god and ulster if i recall, and were just as brutal as the Al queda beheadings we’ve all heard about. Anywhere where chaos predominates- be it Iraq, Afghanistan or Northern Ireland back in the day- psychopaths will surface and commit atrocities. But is it a uniquely Islamic phenomenon? No. And even if it was, to damn all muslims for the actions of a few is simply ridiculous.
I mean, “ban all muslim immigration to Australia?” What are we in, kindergaten?

Patrick Reply:
October 6th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

Hi Brian.

I think that Islam is by far the most brutal murderous religion on the planet, I believe this is hard to argue against.

You may like to pay more attention to who wrote what on the site, this is not a post by either Patrick. It is a post by a person who left to create an anti islam site as my own were not quite extreme enough to suit him.

Brian Warner Reply:
October 7th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

Please accept my apologies for wrongly assuming he was you, Patrick. But i think my point is a valid one- muslims are not the only people who kill in the name of their religon. Is extremist Islam a bigger threat than any other religous idealogy at this moment, and for the forseeable future? Absolutely! Should your goverment and mine be tougher on known extremist agitators? Too right!
But to blame all muslims is simply unfair, and stupidly counterproductive too. And heres why….
Numerous commentators on this site have asked why the silent majority of “so called” moderate muslims dont confront the extremists in their midst? Well i can tell you they do- in Derby, a city not far from me, a radical group led by an iman closely affiliated to Omar Bakhri Mohammed took over the citys main mosque- and started preaching in support of 9/11 & jihad ect. A few months later the moderates banded together and forcibly kicked the extremists out, and none too gently either! Now, id like to challenge all the contributors on here who SAY theyre simply concerned about preventing terrorist actions by muslim extremists, but i suspect are using this a cloak to air their prejudices: My challenge is, if you’re truely concerned about preventing terrorism, put your money where your mouth is and congratulate the moderate muslims of Derby !

April 7th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

Gooseberry

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Muslims do not belong in any western society.

muslims have been at war with each other and the world since the insidious inception of filthy islam

June 5th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

Blackadder

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I’ve been looking into this as a historian for about half a year, TRYING to grasp a point of view that is unbiased. It’s so difficult to concentrate with all these different points of view flying around and it brings on headaches. Why does this have to be such a big issue? I hate it. I get to the point where i just don’t care.
But I think my biggest isuue is, Muslim people say that we should treat them fairly, but HOW CAN I as a person, when I see on the television middle Eastern people killing each other overseas and hacking off heads etc? Then the media tells us that they’re coming over here. I’m sorry, how am i meant to feel comfortable sitting next to someone of a religion that seems portrayed as so barbaric, and not want to shift across to the next seat out of compulsive fear?

Then you hear descriptions of criminals “Of middle Eastern Appearance” on the news and again it makes you frown on people of that race and religion genre. Covering all fronts, yes i understand that there are bad people from every religion and country, but as Gooseberry mentions above, haven’t the people of this race/religion constantly had problems? Now we have at least some coming over here.
I think a lot of these posts could come from Xenophobia rather than anything else. Comments on this are definately racist, but there is a lot of fear here. You can smell it. And if you want to stick your tongue there, you can taste it…

June 16th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

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I agree with most of what you have written Blackadder, but I would point out that disliking Muslims and Islam is not racism. Islam is a religion (I call it a cult more than a religion myself), and as far as I know, my choice to either like or dislike the religion, it’s doctrine and it’s adherents does not amount to the cry of racism.

June 16th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

Blackadder

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Oh, that’s fine, but you have to call it something (actually i googled a word for it and came up with Religism, which is unofficial, but may be added eventually to the English vocabulary). It’s not that i think that people don’t have a right to hate or dislike a religion. It’s just that the posts here are rather quite intense (which is interesting to see). Well i mean i just figured that the phrase “Easy. Shoot them dead on site.” was quite a strong point of view. Hmm, strangely enough i was more freaked out by the “the muslims are going to dominate and eradicate every last one of you motherfuckers” quote by that bob.
Another issue i have a problem with, is that any time the media present a muslim point of view on the issue, they NEVER seem to fail in bringing in the responsible and intellectual exceptions. Here is an example
What about the people like bob, whos opinion is never heard by the public? Why is there all this biased propagander by the media that is trying to promote the Muslim religion as peace loving by only showing the intellectuals who no-one really has an issue with? Why is it that the Muslim people who commit the crimes, don’t get the same coverage and their opinions heard? Why? Because if people like Bob had their opinions revealed to the public then everyone would be angy. Opinions shown by the media are bised. They do not show mixed point of vi0ew in this issue.

June 17th, 2008 at 10:40 am

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Probably because they are total cowards who are petrified of the “Islamic Machine” that attempts to silence critics….like what is happening to Mark Steyn right this minute.

Islam boasts over 1 billion adherents. If just 1 lousy percent of them are psychopathic nutjobs, we have a serious problem. One which Islam itself refuses to address, and therein lies the core of the issue.

Islam is an all pervading stone age primitive, savage belief system that dictates lifestyle from political ideology to spirituality. No such thing as “separation of church and state” here.

Personally, thats one of the things that I think makes it totally incompatible with the western way of life.

June 17th, 2008 at 11:15 am

Blackadder

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Well, i think a definate focus of the media is ratings (well, it’s the driving force). If there is cowardice, i think there is also this idea that they want to play things safe and go with the opinion “trend” that “Oh no, all Islamic people are wonderful etc”. I just think that political correctness is causing problems in society with all issues. Take the Japanese whaling issue for example, and how until recently, the government has done nothing about it (quite interesting in the way that Kevin Rudd has sent boats after whalers straight after election and is now just taking his sweet time in reaching Japan, a definate political move to say that Australia is not going to be walked on). I feel that a more assertive approach can be taken with any Islamic criminal. The problem is, as i’ve said, you have your well behaved Islamic people, but then the criminal Islam, who when responded to for their crimes, say that your motivation for complaining is “because i’m Islamic?” Of course it isn’t because they beat up a lifesaver on the beach or smashed peoples car windows in after the cronulla riots. It MUST be because they’re Islamic. Hooray for technicalities and political correctness.

June 17th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

Blackadder

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I looked up some Mark Steyn articles by the way. Vey interesting. Glad he defended Douglas Wood. I mean that fellow had suffered enough without being critisised for referring to his captors as Arsholes.

I can see the co9nversation right now:
Jaspan (the critic)- “Now Now Douglas, that’s disrespectful, don’t call them that.”
Douglas- “They killed my two friends in front of me!”
Jaspan- “You were blindfolded.”
Douglas- “I’m not deaf.”
Jaspan- “They fed you every day! They treated you well, how can you say all this!”
Douglas-”…….Man…..Fuck You man…….Fuck you!”

June 17th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

D Moss

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Agreed muslims don’t belong in western society and unfortunately, Australia. They look down on westerners, women in particular. They are a totally untrustworthy breed of species. This being, why upon meeting them, they never like to admit they are arab, or muslim. These people lack any sense of moral decency, they actually don’t know what it is, this would be due to rampant inbreeding which has affected any ability for real compassion,honesty and respect amongst other fellow humans. They are a dirty unclean race, this again due to their lack of standards, they still live like peasants whether they are affluent or not. I being an open minded accepting Australian its taught me a large lesson, never trust an Arab, they’d ACTUALLY sell their own mother. What a pitiful, breed they are. Australians can all only be thankful we weren’t born with a chromosone or 2 missing like them!!

July 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

6steve7

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For the future of our country i say no to the CULT OF ISLAM and NO TO MUSLIM IMMIGRATION, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN THIS COUNTRY NO MORE SO GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE AND GO BACK TO WHERE YOU BELONG.We as a country is based on christian values and left that way.See what generosity and sympathy does it comes back to haunt you learn by these mistakes wake up australia before its too late.Im a concerned australian i dont like what i see, so should the politicians. ISLAM IS THE NON BELIEVERS WORST ENEMY AND THEY DONT LIKE US THERE BOOK QURAN IS FULL OF HATRED.SO AUSTRALIA RISE UP AND STAND FOR WHATS RIGHT.I thank ancient greece and democracy for our freedom for which these people want to destroy.

Smudge Reply:
December 1st, 2010 at 10:33 pm

with Gillard at the helm in Oz, and that Muslim at the helm in the US we haven’t a hope in hell, they are hell bent on converting us to Muslim countries, they are piss weak leaders who need taking out.

August 20th, 2008 at 4:22 am

A Muslim Opinion

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As a Muslim reading through this forum, very deep and thorough discussion! Islam is a 1 billion religion, and you are able to classify them all. Those 1 billion ride camels, have four wives, and long beards. They love to kill infidels, as it is their favorite hobby. Their evil book, the Quran, is filled with commands to kill and destroy. In every page and every verse, it orders the followers to spread evil in earth!

What you have is just worthless hate. Your hate is not new, it is the same that I see from Muslim extremists. It is very easy to hate, bring your own excuses, and work your justifications. Keep your fight, and let us see what your hate is going to bring us, humans living on this shared earth.

October 13th, 2008 at 5:56 am

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I guess you would prefer everyone sit around singing Kum by ya while the murderous among you own propagate their terror upon us? I have no interest in your cult, I have no interest in befriending you, I only have an interest in seeing your untrustworthy fellow cultists exterminated.

You see, the difference between your brethren and most westerners is, that if we offered the “olive branch” to muslim extremists, the bastards would sharpen it and cut our heads off with it.

It’s really quite simple.

October 13th, 2008 at 7:52 am

Anon

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Just a thought how would one determine that a person is or isnt muslim because they’re brown? Sure as someone said before they would probably lie no i doubt they would i myself am not a muslim but they are proud of who they are and should not have to lie. Also i am not disagreeing that muslim extremists should not be allowed into this country however assuming that all muslims wish to kill you and your families because i am guessing you are white, is simply just agreeing to a wrongly based stereotype of muslims. One question have either of you ever met a muslim?

October 26th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

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Anon, muslims do indeed lie

However, unlike most religions, within Islam there are certain provisions under which lying is not simply tolerated, but actually encouraged. The book “The spirit of Islam,” by the Muslim scholar, Afif A. Tabbarah was written to promote Islam. On page 247, Tabbarah stated: “Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: ‘He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good.”

Yes I have met many of them, what is your point and who is the “either of you” you refer to?

October 26th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

A worried citizen

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Muslims are people you know. They should be treated properly like everyone else in the world.

Anon is correct in what he/she just said. Who are you to judge a person based upon their beliefs?

October 27th, 2008 at 9:10 am

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Oh, a little moral relativism there. I will judge people however and upon whatever basis I please. Adherents to a religion based on the ramblings of a warmongering pedophile warrant little respect. Sorry if you were expecting something a little more “liberal”. You’re in the wrong place for a thou shalt not judge sermon.

October 27th, 2008 at 9:23 am

A worried citizen

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Well it’s nice to know that you are concerned for our country, but this country is accepting to all races.

You probably only make up 15% of the people that don’t want Muslin immigration in Australia.

Let me ask, what has a Muslim ever done to you to make you feel this strongly?

October 28th, 2008 at 9:38 am

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You probably only make up 15% of the people that don’t want Muslin immigration in Australia.

I would dearly love to see that question put to the people. I suspect you are very very wrong.

Let me ask, what has a Muslim ever done to you to make you feel this strongly?

To save me listing things that are covered much better elsewhere, I suggest you visit here and have a read. Before you go though, you might like to tell me in which country where there is more than 10% muslim population is there peace?

Also please note that this topic that you are replying to was written on Thursday, August 18th, 2005 by a person who no longer writes on this site. You may like to go visit the writer here, I think thats where the person writes now.

October 28th, 2008 at 10:42 am

nadia

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you are to be shame of yourselves some australian……..I am one survived Buchenwald…and you are talking to me about Judo-Christian humanity….yesterdajs Christians killed milions in the camps Todays Jews are doing the same to Palestinian population keeping them in Gaza Ghetto … Yo are to be shame of yourselves …Yo u claym to believe in jesus to be Messiah…Did not he said LOVE YOUR FELOW MAN..

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

Nadia I am very sorry for your grief and what you have been through. The Germans were awful. My mother is Italian and was captured by the Nazis. She thankfully got away. Others were not so lucky. Yes the Bible does say to love your fellow man. It is very difficult to forgive and love someone who hates you. May I ask have you forgiven the people who hurt you? And I truly sympathise for I hear my mother’s stories of the atrocities of the Germans to the Jews and many others. It is horrible. The Germans were hateful and did not succeed. The muslims are hateful and they will not succeed either. Take care Nadia. And have a good life.

May 12th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

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Did not he said LOVE YOUR FELOW MAN

I guess you mad muzzies are leading by example hey nadia?

May 13th, 2009 at 10:43 am

Normal Person

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Nadia said she survived Buchenwald which was a Nazi concentration camp, so I would assume she is Jewish – why on earth would you think she was a Muslim? The ignorance here is mind boggling. I believe she was pointing out that Christians (if you want it spelt out, German Protestant Christians, one of whom was Adolf Hitler) have done horrible things to people of other religions, in that case Jews. Jews have also done horrible things to other religions, e.g. the Palestinian Muslims. What goes around comes around, doesn’t it, when you’re full of ignorance and hate? Read up on a bit of history before vilifying other religions. I truly hope that people know the majority of these comments don’t represent the majority of Australian opinion. Sheesh.

May 13th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

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I guess my assumption that she is muslim is as relevant as yours that she is Jewish.

Inmates were Jews, Poles, political prisoners, Roma and Sinti, Jehovah’s Witnesses, religious prisoners, criminals, homosexuals, and prisoners of war (POWs).[1] Up to 1942 the majority of the political prisoners consisted of communists; later the proportion of other political prisoners increased considerably. Among the prisoners were also writers, doctors, artists, former nobility, and princesses. They came from countries as varied as Russia, Poland, France, Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Denmark, Latvia, Italy, Romania and Spain (some Second Spanish Republic exiles). Most of the political prisoners from the occupied countries were members of the resistance.

However I think your missing the point, as is she. Most of the crimes committed by (alleged) Christians were not committed for and in the name of their God.

I doubt even Hitlers most fervent guards “shouted God is great” as they hacked of some hapless prisoners head with a rusty kitchen knife.

Yes history is full of atrocities committed by people of all religions and races, however believe it or not, we are living in 2009 and the problem we face in the here and now, is mad muzzies.

Also please note as I have said over and over again, I am not a Christian. Also please note that this post was written in 2005 by a person who no longer writes here. Go find them here.

May 13th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

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The great myth – Nazis were Christians, doing what they did in the name of God. They barely tolerated Protestants but had no use for Catholics or Jews. Hitler had no use for any belief system with a supreme signifier other than himself. The Nazis were more about a return to Germany’s polytheistic paganism than any monotheistic religion.

Also, on the battlefield, the muslims were Hitler’s allies in the Middle East. With the state of modern “education” being what it is, it’s no wonder that historical fact is lost on this generation where feeeeeelings are more important than facts.

May 18th, 2009 at 8:48 am

Robert C

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Having lived in this once wonderful country of Australia commencing late 40′s and 50′s was like heaven.
With all the trash imposed upon us by evil men we have become a trash bin. Multiculturalism is an evil. Politically correct speech is an evil.
All the oppressive laws being enacted daily are with one purpose to destroy us as a people.
Unfortunately, we must have government, even though they all use lies deceit and propaganda to accomplish their purposes. They all are totally evil, but there is a small company of people together with their MASTER currently in training who will quickly dispose of every one of the governments of this world. Hallelujah!

Smudge Reply:
December 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm

Can’t wait.

May 31st, 2009 at 7:29 am

Robert C

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Why was not my article published? It was not vulgar, abusive, not death threats. Rather it was the truth. But then we are living in a world that hates truth. We as a nation are conditioned to believe the lie!

Patrick Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:34 am

Wow man, gimmie a minute to moderate it.

May 31st, 2009 at 7:32 am

Sid

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This is without doubt one of the most racist article I have ever read, but the real shocker is the comments.

You talk about Islam like you know Islam. Like one guy said – read about, learn it – then it will be fair if you still criticize it. I am 100% sure you wont critize it after you know what it stands for.

Jihad means “to struggle”. For e.g. If you are muslim, and you are in a foreign country where there is rampant prostitution. If you can ‘struggle’ within yourselves and avoid this bad deed – then you are doing Jihad.

Islam does not encourage violence – its literal meaning is Peace and ‘submission to god’.

There is a difference between Islam and Muslims though. Yes, some Muslims are maniacs, but are’nt they in any other religion. Whos shooting the kids and professors in schools in US? Who killed millions Jews in Germany? Does that make their religion satanic or wrong?

As bitter and sharp they were, I still respect your opinions, but I do wish you knew more about the religion before concluding on it based on news and stereotypes

May 31st, 2009 at 12:43 pm

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Islam is a religion Sid, not a race. Therefore it is not racist at all.

Your meaning of Jihad is of course seldom employed by those who like to butcher for their own little jihads.

Yes Islam means “submission”. I am guessing you see nothing wrong with this?

Whos shooting the kids and professors in schools in US? Who killed millions Jews in Germany?

A typically moronic comment. These idiots are not doing it in the name of their God, or because their God told them to, or because they think they will get 72 virgins, or because allah will smile on them. There is a difference.

I will pay a modicum of attention to you if you can name me one country, just one, where muslims live in peace not only with each other but with other religions.

There is a difference between actually reading about islam and falling for it’s propaganda, I suggest you learn it.

May 31st, 2009 at 1:30 pm

ur not fooling anyone but urself...grow up

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dear patrick…..
i have been monitoring your comments for quite some time now. i strongly advice that you to go back to 2005 and review every opinion and criticism that you have expressed, because you ARE extremly RACIST. sorry to break it to you, but you are embarrassing yourself. What century do you live in? cos the last time i checked, any form of intolerance which leads to the marginalisation of a group is formally known as racialisation. so to dumb it down even further….. by referring to muslims, radical muslims and Islam all as the one and the same, AND labelling them as criminal/ murderers etc; you are expressing intolerance towards a diverse range of cultures, ethnicities (including many WHITE AUSTRALIANS, from british descendents) that believe in and/or follow Islam. maybe you should remove your racial optics before you critique any religion or culture because every single idea or opinion you have discussed can be easily discredited and ridiculed. oh i have many criticisms towards your comments, and yes, i have done alot of research, and no, i dont claim to know all, but i do believe i know enough to be able to identify a racist act.

Patrick Reply:
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:32 am

Interesting comment, however I believe you are wrong. According to the United Nations

Definition of “racial discrimination”

Article 1 of the Convention defines “racial discrimination” as
any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life

I guess of course you could always claim good old “ethnicity” to justify your ramblings, but thats drawing a mighty long bow being that as you so rightly claim

Islam is

a diverse range of cultures, ethnicities (including many WHITE AUSTRALIANS, from british descendents) that believe in and/or follow Islam

If I said Scientology was a fraud and a fake and its adherents mentally deranged (something I do at least partly believe) and you consider that racist, than gimmie a white pointy hood, coz thats just what I am.

I am still waiting for that one single nation with majority muslims where there is peace.

Seriously.

I would be interested to read all about peace lovin muslims living side by side with their their neighbors and the different branches of their own cult.

June 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 am

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I am still waiting for that one single nation with majority muslims where there is peace.

You’ll be waiting for that for a long time I’m tipping…Just as Andrew Bolt will be waiting a long time for someone to name 10 people from the stolen generation.

June 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 am

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yeah Boz, it’s a little hard to buy the old “Religion Of Peace” line when there doesn’t appear to be a single muslim populated place on the planet where peace and tolerance exist.

June 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 am

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I hear that mate.

June 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 pm

Rodney Banks

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No western countries should be allowing furthur muslim immigration,Muslims do not come west to assimilate but to multiply and conquer, Muslim immigration has to be stopped or we are doomed.

August 19th, 2009 at 1:32 am

ur not fooling anyone but urself...grow up

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hey hey!

sorry, i know its been a while… ok… you really have to stop with the muslims not being peaceful crap. trust me there are plenty of countries where muslims live peacefully, ‘side by side’ with christians/non-muslims. i’ve seen it for myself. it was the most wonderful feeling. i remember hearing christmas carol’s on the radio; they were being played on the same station that was playing islamic muslic. christianity and islam playing the same tune. Weird, i know… but it was the nicest experience i’ve ever had. their were mosques right next to churches. and xmas decorations all over the streets… And this was an islamic country. i have never, in my whole entire life seen anything like that in australia. and this was an islamic country that i was visiting. so to someones Qn (sorry i cant be remember who it was) Yes there definately are islamic countries where muslims and non muslims live side by side at peace. but sorry im not going to tell you what country this is. i really liked it, i’ve been twice now, and one day i would really like to go with my friends. i dont want to jinx it. you’ll just have to do a lil travelling, and have a couple of your own experiences. who knows, it might do you some good. it definately was an eye opener for me.

August 19th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

ur not fooling anyone but urself...grow up

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dear Blackadder,
i really like they way you use your words. very honest. its nice to see others who try to be sensitive to other cultures, even when at times, everything seems doubtful.

August 19th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

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Of course you are not going to name it.

August 19th, 2009 at 10:33 pm

ur not fooling anyone but urself...grow up

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Patrick, does your whole life revolve around this website? do you like sit in the same spot, in the same room, infront of the same computer 24 hours a day? sometimes i wonder if you have ever stepped out of the box. have you travelled? do you have ethnic friends? have you ever eaten thai, indian or lebanese food? its invasive isnt it??? being asked so many questions. Sometimes, questions are better not answered. so if someone wants know something about world, they should just get of they’re arse, and stop expecting ppl to give them the answer. theres so much wrong with the world… and yes it doesnt help when radical randoms start throwing bombs or punches or watever, but i believe that if people really wanted something to change, they would make the effort to find out how it came to be in the first place. thats what im trying to do atm. its soooo important to understand the socio-political history behind conflicts before ‘rolling your eyes’ and making a judgment.

August 19th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

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Just as I thought. Attack me rather than back your claims up with anything as complex as a country name.

As for your questions, none of your business.

August 19th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

ur not fooling anyone but urself...grow up

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exactly, its none of my business…. so dont expect educate you about countries of peace. if peace is what yopu wanted, you would have found it by now, but obviously the years of negativity has clouded your judgment. Qn would you give an exposive to a terrorist???
presuming that your answer is no…
for me, telling you which countries are peaceful, is basically the same as trusting a potential vilian with your life. i wouldnt just be telling you, i’d be telling everyone on this sight; furthermore, bringing attention to countries that already live in peace and dont need this kind of eurocentric that bullshit brought onto them. if you so educated why dont you answer the questions yourself…

August 31st, 2009 at 3:29 pm

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Thank you for that last comment. It proved my suspicion that not only are you a bullshit artist, but a semi literate one at that.

Cheers.

August 31st, 2009 at 10:20 pm

lest we forget

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All Australians accept that Australia is a bloody great place. Unfortunately, most of us fail to remember what made it great in the first place. Because of this, they constantly seek to improve it with whatever feels good at the time. This is the basis of many people’s acceptance of multi-culturalism. It’s like being happily drunk at a party when some one offers you a joint. Sure it sounds like a good idea, but soon you’re in the garden, passed out in your own vomit.

September 18th, 2009 at 11:40 pm

Stephen Harrison

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IPCC
1st Floor
Oaklands House
Washway Road
Sale
M33 6FS

Dear Sir/Madam

I wish to enter a Formal Complaint concerning the inaction of the West Midlands Police Force/Authority and West Mercia Police/Authority to this reported serious crime. A police force must be free from political restraint and impartial when investigating crimes of this nature committed frankly by their paymasters politicians who are in power as the Government of the United Kingdom. If the Police are not able or unwilling to investigate and prosecute serious crimes of this nature then who can exactly protect a citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. I am genetically English; I have also been displaced by being deprived of my right to my individuality and culture. The Geneva Convention clearly states that displacement by immigration is a crime against humanity. This can be carried out by language, cultural change which is unacceptable to the indigenous person. The selling of a Christian Church would fall under this “crime”, if it were sold to become a place of worship for an alien ethnic culture or religion. Therefore turning Christian churches into Muslim mosques would be an act of ethnocide as its soul intention would be to deprive the indigenous genetic people of their cultural heritage. Further allowing call to prayer would also cause understandable displacement of an indigenous people as it is a direct assault on their right to a cultural identity and to be able to enjoy their right to individuality. Thus any displacement would be Ethnocide.

The crimes I reported to these Police forces were Ethnocide and Gerrymandering, both are serious criminal acts. If the Chief Constables and The Police generally are to dismiss my claims without care, thought or attention then they are guilty of gross negligence. Statistical Factual Evidence and Also Anecdotal and Video Evidence is Available as are Witnesses to the crime of ethnocide, over 80% of The capital cities population is now made up of people other than those of a genetic indigenous race, this is clear evidence of displacement and this displacement is being carried out in many major cities and towns throughout Great Britain, including Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Luton and so the list goes on and on. The fact that politicians who have openly encouraged mass immigration are not investigated for criminal acts suggest that we live within a totalitarian and police state, where law be it international or local are being flouted with the full cooperation of the chief constables

The crimes I am alleging are Ethnocide against the genetic peoples of Great Britain namely the White English, Scottish, Northern Irish and Welsh indigenous peoples of this our homeland.

These examples are not those of a raving lunatic or a racist but of a victim of a criminal act under both the Geneva Convention and The United Nations acts to protect indigenous people from ethnic cleansing.

The fact that No mandate was sort from the people is irrelevant as no mandate can be given for a crime against humanity.

I now wish to move on to my reported crime of gerrymandering again statistical evidence is available to support my allegation that mass immigration is being used to make a significant difference to the voting pattern of an area, by allowing mass immigration the labour government is gaining a substantial sympathetic vote in areas of displacement this is a new form of gerrymandering but is gerrymandering none the less. I understood this to be a crime.

Following is the crime as reported to the Police Forces of The West Midlands and which to date has been ignored.
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I wish to report to you a case of the most serious crime in the world.

The United Nations acts/edicts on Human Rights; concerning the; Rights of Indigenous people,
to individuality, culture, including cultural heritage.

Under The Geneva Convention; Genocide and Ethnocide.

I also wish to complain that countless people in the Police Force/ Government and Other Agencies, SOCA, Human Rights and equalities commission have conspired to Commit Crimes against Humanity and Ethnocide.

Please investigate this FORMAL COMPLAINT FULLY!

This is a case of Ethnocide and it is happening here and now in the United Kingdom.
Gerrymandering; by the movement of population. Example London is now 80% Ethnic Minorities this is clear evidence of both Ethnocide and Gerrymandering.

Labours plan of uncontrolled immigration policy has come to light and this can be proven in the statistics.

Wikipedia lists and briefly explains exactly the Crime of Ethnocide.

Attacks on Culture, Individuality and Displacement. Positive discrimination could also be seen to be negative to the indigenous peoples so would also be against their human rights. Whilst employment generally has gone up employment among indigenous people has fallen by 62,000 such is the way we the White English are discriminated against.

Put simply it is the cleansing or minoritising of an indigenous population by methods other than mass extermination.

It is a fact that by 2070 the immigrant population will be ahead of the indigenous peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. That year will be the year that the planned for ethnocide is complete.

This is a Crime against humanity according to the Geneva Convention it is an equivalent crime to Genocide and is a form of Ethnic Cleansing. Phillip Dunne MP who is my MP is ignorant as he thinks ethnocide involves being murdered, is doesn’t it involves being made to feel emotion that causes displacement so best you all understand what ethnocide is.

I am reporting this crime to every agency in the UK to expose this crime to the indigenous British People. I am also complaining that the Metropolitan Police and West Midlands Police have ignored this reported crime.

This is the basis of my complaint, which will reveal if our political masters have created a police totalitarian state within a democracy or not if indeed crimes against humanity as alleged exists then legal action against the conspirators should be taken. These crimes are criminal and not civil.

Yours faithfully

November 15th, 2009 at 8:25 am

Robert & Maricel Syrett

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It is time for true Australians to stand up and stop the Muslim invasion. It scares the hell out of me for my children.

November 18th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

michael

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I live in australia and today while i was at the beach, i noticed alot of muslims, children were covered up etc, i dont rememeber this as a kid but the last few years it seems their numbers are growing. It makes me think what its going to be like in another 20 years down the track. Has anyone else noticed this

November 22nd, 2009 at 9:03 pm

Ferlness

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All you have to do is look at Europe to see what’s happening there. Sweden and Belgium in particular. It’s very scary. I’m not concerned about myself, but my children and grandchildren will have to pay for the pollitical correctness of the liberal minded, left wing socialists of this world. The civilised west is in SERIOUS danger people.

April 15th, 2010 at 3:35 am

wake up people

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after reading through this blog i was amazed to discover the extent to which people can be so racist and judgmental. honestly, all i can say is go get some education before posting comments like these. this is not directed at all of you just to some:

“ISLAM IS THE NON BELIEVERS WORST ENEMY AND THEY DONT LIKE US THERE BOOK QURAN IS FULL OF HATRED.SO AUSTRALIA RISE UP AND STAND FOR WHATS RIGHT.”

to the someone who wrote this. who are you to say that the Quran is full of hatred? haveyou even read the Quran to know whether or not it is about hatred?

comments like these are truly beyond pathetic .. back up would nice

most of you talk about Islam like you actually know the religion. why don’t you try learning about it or even reading about it? i will assure you that in doing so, you wont be able to criticize it and you will become less narrow minded!!

now back to the topic of muslims being allowed to immigrate to Australia:

i must say i agree to some extent to the fact that certain groups should be restricted in immigrating to Australia though not whole religious groups. i mean yes, i agree some muslims are not too great and yes some, i repeat some can be classified under the ‘terrorist category’ but it is unjust to restrict all muslims from immigrating to Australia.

yes i must say there are some rotten eggs from the Islamic religious background, but this does not mean the entire people of Islam are to blame. thats basically called generalization. a term which seems unknown to most people posting these comments. i mean there are rotten eggs from all religious groups – realistically speaking that is ..

this whole restricting muslims from immigration to Australia is utterly pathetic.

honestly try to see how the muslims in Australia feel: in many cases they are left unemployed .. why?

simply because of their beliefs. i had a Muslim friend by the name of Mohamed, who had to change his name to Moe so as to be accepted in a particular work place .. what is wrong with you people?!

2) muslims are very often looked down upon within society and are extremely disadvantaged

3) Muslim women are constantly being stared at simply because of the scarf they put on their heads. they do not deserve this treatment

maybe if everyone tried to treat each other as an equal and show respect to one and all there would be no problems of this sought.

maybe if you tried to employ a Muslim client there would be less muslims out there on the streets – smuggling drugs for a living, forming gangs and whatever the hell they do.

all i ask you of you people is to open your eyes!! not that hard.. open your eyes and stop targeting other religious groups!! maybe then we can live in a peaceful Australia

April 17th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

wake up people

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wow my comment was not published .. keep up the great work of hiding the truth

April 17th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

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wow my comment was not published .. keep up the great work of hiding the truth

Jesus gimme a couple of hours. No one sits here all day you know.

April 17th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

wake up people

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so sorry

April 17th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

auz

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well if you take a feed tray away from cockys they dont come so why do we stop giveing free money to ever one who comes here and make it harder like no one can get the dole, unlss they are born her and second generation
ausie think about it no one will come if they cant get free money. take the food tray away make it law.

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 5:12 pm

I agree.

May 8th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

JJ

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The intolerance, bigotry and prejudice in these comments is shocking. I would have thought that Australia, as a mulitcultural country, would be home to more accepting and level-headed people.

Perhaps you should actually research these religions you so vehemently criticise or blindly uphold as superior, then you would realise the ridiculouness of these anti-islam sentiments.

Here are some things you should realise: Judaism and Christianity share their roots with Islam. Islam recognises Jesus as a very important prophet. The Qur’an contains versus that can be interpreted as either supporting war, or supporting peace (there is a verse that states that to kill one person is the equivalent of killing the entire world), an aspect of the text that is very similar to the Bible.

It is not the religion that is evil, it is the actions of the minority of muslims who are extremists that are evil. Many muslims are very peaceful people, and exiling them from Australia is an action bourne of ignorance and intolerance.

Kasey Reply:
August 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 pm

Have you ever checked out the anti-Jewish,Christian,infidel verses in the Koran that Muslim youth are indoctrinated with [and there are plenty]? Or the brutalities in Sharia Law. If that didn’t exist, no-one would worry. The terrorism in the world is mainly Islamic… The religion of peace? Who are they trying to kid?

July 29th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

Krang

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Less talk more action! The general Aussie population only cares about cricket and afl and doesn’t care about the fundamental issues such as these!! Wake up Australia! We need someone to pull their finger out and to speak on behalf of most of us who are too scared!! I feel for thr future generation.

August 4th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

Albert

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Patrick,

Have you ever heard of Malaysia? It should meet your criteria as a “peaceful and tolerant” majority muslim country.

August 9th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

Fed up

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I’ll vote for anyone who will get rid of the problems we now clearly have in our Society with various Ethnic groups.

To the bleeding hearts out there…face reality. Pick up a newspaper any day of the week. Right now, in fact. Check the daily telegraph online. Middle Eastern crime in Melbourne and Sydney, multiple incidents. That’s just today. Sometimes there’s more, but not one day goes by when something doesn’t happen that is reflective of crimes committed by these Ethnic groups.

Besides that, they’re grossly offensive. They have no idea how to behave in public, they want everyone to live by their rules. They view Women as second class citizens, they don’t mind murdering their Wives, Daughters, Nieces, Cousins…you name it. It’s just filthy. I’m gob-smacked that every Women’s Rights Organisation in Australia isn’t up in arms over it!

Their Males are disgusting. They are noisy, rude, arrogant and violent. Often plain stupid into the bargain. They only have their own actions to blame for my opinion of them, if they behaved themselves I’d like them. I’m sick of the lot of them.

August 13th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

iba

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well here’s a point of view of an atheist who comes from a muslim society

most if not all of the post want just keep pointing their fingers at muslims.. i’ll speak as a muslim coz i carry with me all muslim morals wherever i go.. from respecting those who r older and be kind to those who r younger, to respcting family and u know what? in islam even when u r 50 yo & ur parent slap u in the face, u would lower ur head and apologize.. coz s/he is a parent and lost years of his life to make u the person u r now.. i hav noticed that in the christian society, ppl send their parents to age care centres (whatever they r called) and visit them once a week.. it’s a shame in islam 2 do such a thing.. christians hav gone too far.. what about child abuse, drugs etc. so amigo when u point your finger, remember that the other four fingers r pointing @ u.

August 15th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

John Dayer

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Stopping Muslim immigration to Canada would be as simple as putting Muslim immigration applications on a separate pile needing “Security Review”. And such “Security Reviews” should never occur while this World War Against Muslim Terror continues – maybe for generations…

Considering the poor quality of Canadian democracy (specifically because Canadians cannot directly vote in a referendum to stop Muslim immigration), here is how almost all Muslim applications could be relegated to an indefinite “Security Review” pile:

REMOVE ALMOST ALL SECURITY (RCMP, CSIS, Can. Armed Forces) THAT COVERS THE BEHINDS OF THE TOP-LEVEL POLITICIANS !!! After all, the Muslim terrorists want to attack the PMO and Ministers of Foreign Affairs and National Defence. Those terrorist get diverted to attacking civilian targets like subways when security for the top-level leadership is too tough. So then the terrorists strike soft targets like subways because citizens voted for politicians the terrorists hate.

I rode the Toronto subway for years. My niece rides that subway today. I’d certainly prefer that the terrorists hit those crooked, anti-democratic top-level SOBs. And as an added bonus, the top-level SOBs would then finally stop Muslim immigration to Canada during this World War Against Muslim Terror.

September 13th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

Australian Tea Party

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We as a nation don’t need to discriminate against moslems or anyone else, we just need to have grant of entry, let alone citizenship, be conditional on signing of a contract with the nation. Breach its terms- get kicked out forever. Switzerland uses it. And it works. Harsh? So is white genocide enabled by the socialists and eagerly carried out by parasitic third worlders who are illegal immigrants and not enthusiastic new Australians.

If they’re bad guests it’s because we’re being fuckwitted hosts.

What 1 on 1 relationship would be seen as healthy if it was run like our immigration system?

Gary

September 14th, 2010 at 1:37 am

John Dayer

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Way too soft. We’re at WAR – Switzerland isn’t. Contracts signed by sleeper terrorists aren’t worth anything.

In Canada a few weeks ago, a sleeper-cell bomb factory was discovered with the explosives and circuit boards for dozens of bombs.

The Canadian Parliament Buildings and a Canadian subway were targets named in emails between the captured Muslim terrorists.

Canadians deserve pledges from their politicians that they would personally clear the bombs from the terrorists they let into Canada….

But the minimum Canadians should demand from their politicians is a pledge in writing to explain to the families of the terrorists’ future victims, as well as to the Canadian public, why such potential Muslim terrorists were allowed into Canada.

And why we should trust those politicians to prevent entry of more Muslim terrorists.

I don’t know anything about the Australian Tea Party but it already sounds mushy.

Canada held the G8/G20 meeting at a security cost of about $1 Billion.

A small part of that security cost was needed against the idiotic anti-globalist anarchists. But the major fear naturally was about Muslim terrorism and mass murder.

If you don’t care about massive bloodshed, what about the costs of doubling and re-doubling Muslim populations in our societies ??

Even though my area has been threatened but not yet hit by terrorism, the small Muslim population here causes lots of violent crime related to drug trafficking and honour killings.

And if you don’t care about Canada, the US, Europe, how bad do you want Muslims to get in Australia ???……

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/five-muslim-men-planned-attack-on-nsw-army-base-supreme-court-told/story-e6frf7l6-1225921088341

Then try reading this site for a while if you can stomach the dead bodies:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

September 14th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

outback pete

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I want to know is how do we clean up our country of these unwanted pests and what can we do as aussies to stop the mongrels from coming in. who do we have to vote for to stop this shit from happening.? All i hear is a lot of disgruntled people and Im in full agreeance with everything said here, so what do we do to fix this?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! any real solutions besides exterminating the fuckers? Im sick of paying tax to feed their lazy arses what is the real solution? anyone have a real answer? why does the australian govt still let these vermon in, when no aussie wants them here?!!!!!

Smudge Reply:
December 1st, 2010 at 11:15 pm

The Australian Government lets them in because they are piss weak left wing idiots.

October 27th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

Nonie Darwish

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This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.

This is not hearsay

Joys of Muslim Women

By Nonie Darwish

In the Muslim faith a male can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child, consummating the marriage by 9. The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce. To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses. Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives ‘at will’ and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.

The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (a prostitute) at his discretion.

Shariah Muslim law controls the private, as well as the public, life of the woman.

In the Western World (USA and Britain) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife cannot obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her. It is alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities and British Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.

By passing this on, enlightened American and British women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.

Ripping the West in Two.

Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.

She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.

Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before migrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel. He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza. When he died, he was considered a “shahid,” a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.

But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.

In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law – what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual. Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.

Peace and prosperity for one’s children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.

While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Sharia teaches two systems of ethics – one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.

While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.

It’s hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.

While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro-dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.

(In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. and Britain to elect the President by themselves! Rest assured they will do so. You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA. Dearborn Mich. is one, and there are others.) (Britain has several cities now totally controlled by Muslims.)

I think everyone in the U.S. and Great Britain should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!

It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful. Some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam. The peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion. While America and Britain is getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America (and Britain).

Julie Reply:
June 24th, 2011 at 5:16 pm

Nonie. This is scary stuff. I like a lot of other people are worried about sharia law and muslim rule. I feel very heartbroken at reading this article. That women are viewed as sex toys and children as young as 1 may be married. It is really frightening stuff.

October 27th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

Perry

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A lot of Muslims that come over here actually come here for a better life. I mean, the Middle East is unbelievably corrupt and have tyrannical governments. Imagine if Osama Bin Laden was controlling your government… would you want to stay in the country? I have Muslim friends and all of them believe in women having full rights, peace, and they definitely don’t want to blow stuff up. I think a lot of you are mixing up the extremists and hardcore muslims with the majority of the normal muslims. All of the muslims I know act just like me. They just believe in different things. And a good muslim actually respects christians and jews, they just believe Islam is a completion of judaism and christianity. I don’t think stopping all muslim immigration should happen, but definitely stopping the crazy extremists. Those are the ones who should be targeted, those are the ones who are dangerous, and those are the ones who refuse to integrate.

Oh and some of you are mixing up religion and ethnicity/skin tone. Just because some people are tanner/have darker features than an indigenous Aussie, doesn’t mean they are Muslim. And if somebody is from a Middle Eastern country, it doesn’t mean they are Muslim. There’s a good amount of Middle Easterners that believe in the religion of Bahai… there are even some jews and christians. My best friend was born in Iraq and is Catholic. Not all middle easterners are muslims. And not all muslims are terrorists…. just the crazy extremists.

Nonie Darwish Reply:
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm

you naive little man. you have no idea of the big picture do you? give it ten years when you realise that you are wrong and have finally realised and guess what ….too late. Grow up!

November 26th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

tictac

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Hey you all are fools waste your and others time.you cant stop Jews, Christians ,or muzzies.They all are stupid they are not following their religion properly. I think best is to be atheist .

January 31st, 2011 at 9:49 pm

Regular Type Dude Man

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So – After reading 162 comments posted over close to 6 years, it’s all good stuff, and now I feel I should make a few points of my own.

ONE:
Often, one must make “sweeping generalisations” and place, for example ALL Muslims into the “BAD” basket… this has to be expected given their track record of late.

TWO:
Don’t be fooled into re-living the past.. what Hitler did or didn’t do has no bearing on the situation we are NOW confronted with – Global warming is the least of our problems kiddies…

THREE:
Do-Gooding, PC, Dont smack your children, Latte drinking,Bleeding heart,Prius driving,North Shore,Vote Sucking, Cardigan wearing, Dreadlocked fucking wanna-be’s are solely responsible for the state we are in.
There’s a sweeping generalisation ???

We (they) are scared to voice our opinion for fear of critisism, for fear of being called a “racist” – Multi – culturilism will be rejected where a strong culture exists previously… i dont want multicuralism in Australia – We HAVE A CULTURE – why dilute it…?? why erase it?? – For Freedom of expression.

Anyhow, I lay blame at the feet of ALL muslims for the untrust and hatred they have propogated through the western world.. It’s an old saaying but its a true one – RESPECT IS EARNED, IT IS NOT GRATIS

Until the world (and the average guy in the street) is able to say – “Hey, those muslims aren’t bad guys after all” – it’s always gonna be “THEM & US” – Clean up your own backyard, prove to the world that ISLAM is a peacefull religion and maybe, just maybe, one day western culture may become more trusting and acceptive.

P.S – I bow to no religion, i believe in a creator, and an expanding/parallel universe, dark matter/string theory etc. have read the quoran,king james, mormon, 7th day bibles. they must be taken with a grain of salt and are in fact great epic stories that must be treated as such – They contain basic “rules”, that if obeyed, will lead to a somewhat harmonious society and thats all – 10 commandments for example.

Anyhow, I’m gonna go grab a beer and a bacon sandwich – catchya l8r. GO NUCLEAR DUDES !! ;0

February 15th, 2011 at 10:18 am

Regular Type Dude Man

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one ore tale:
It’s the story of the Stray Dog.

Two stray dogs wandering around a park – A Pittbull and a Miniature Poodle.
Mummy is pushing little johnny around in the pram and encounters the Pitt Bull, Oh dear…!! i’d better steer clear of that Pittbull and she makes quite a wide berth, for Pittbulls are always in the news, savaging children and the like !!.
Five minutes later, she crosses paths with the poodle, Poodles are never in the news – so they cant hurt my child, yet the poodle savages the child, placing it in hospital.

IS mummy going to approach the Poodle next time ?? If the stray dog continually bites the kind hand that feeds and houses it, will the stray dog not be exterminated ??
Can you judge the book by the cover ??

Tales be told – ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.. !

Now for some fun: See Hermes and the Arabs written some 2700 years ago :

Hermes filled a cart with lies and dishonesty and all sorts of wicked tricks, and he journeyed in this cart throughout the land, going hither and thither from one tribe to another, dispensing to each nation a small portion of his wares. When he reached the land of the Arabs, so the story goes, his cart suddenly broke down along the way and was stuck there. The Arabs seized the contents of the cart as if it were a merchant’s valuable cargo, stripping the cart bare and preventing Hermes from continuing on his journey, although there were still some people he had not yet visited. As a result, Arabs are liars and charlatans, as I myself have learned from experience. There is not a word of truth that springs from their lips.

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February 15th, 2011 at 10:47 am

michael

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***k off muslims ..islamics…its australia and you are raping it .. go fix your own ****ing countries up…so called paradise. Australia is a paradise that none of you ******g breeding germs deserve. The government are *****d im sick of it..nobody is allowed to say anything because it is racist .what a pile of shit.Simply we do not like your culture..in australia we speak english thats it!Have some ******g respect you cockroches ir im going to have to deport you all my fucking self

Patrick Carroll Reply:
March 19th, 2011 at 1:55 am

Well folks, as you can see, tensions run high with this issue. That being said, there is no excuse for this sort of language and it certainly won’t be tolerated on this blog.

Having said that though, I appreciate Michael’s sentiments and might I add that I fully endorse his stance when it comes to Islam in general terms, however crudely he might have expressed himself in the first place.

March 18th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

Doris

150

I don’t know the immigration situation in Australia, but in Europe, specialy France, Italy, Ireland to namea few, and in the USA immigration is a major problem.

Now the situation is that the immigration policies are not decided by the inviting countries. So who is inviting these foreigners to immigrate in our countries? Who decide the immigration policies? That is a valid question.

In the USA the economic situation is critical and does not permit to support more immigrants.

The problem of changing the contry into something else from a englich Christian base to something else, is a different matter. It is going on full speed in the USA as we speek. They lit the minora and want to bann Christmas trees. The fact is the USA is no longer a Christian country. It is a secular state. So is Canada and so is Australia. The question is do you want to live in a British dominant Australia or would you be OK with having a foreign minority dictating their agenda to the Australian as it is and will be in America, Canada,Europe. What they have that you have not is the will power to promotel, and inforce their agenda.

April 28th, 2011 at 4:05 am

Dean

151

I am from Europe, however I have many different races that make up my family and I do not consider myself a racist. However possibly hippocrically I am intolerant of intolerance. In the late seventies and early eighties I went to school in the Middle East. From that experience on a personal level I do not have a problem with most Muslims I met. However Islam promotes a strong sense of community that once established becomes arrogantly assertive and takes the moral high ground when dealing with non-believers. There is a rough analogy I would like to make here: think of soccer hooligans – individually they are ok and you would have a beer with one but find the same person in his clan at a match and ….. you get the picture? If you have read the Koran and understand the words and deeds of Mohd then you will know that the “Muslim Community” have three options when encountering non-muslim communities;

1. Invite non-believers to become Muslims.
2. If non-believers do not accept Islam as their faith the Muslim Community must demand a religous tax levied at non-believers(as the Muslim Community is now protecting the non-believers ?!). A crucial point here is that the non-believers have to be willing (happy) to pay the tax and accept a second class status in society.
3. If the first two options fail then the final option is to seek Allah’s help and fight the non-believers.

The point here is that individual Muslims are just like the rest of us, good, bad, ugly etc and so forth. However it is with each muslim immigrant and mosque that their enclaves and communities grow in the West. That is what the West should be concerned about. Is it racist to reject an ideology, such as islam? Prominently in recent history and at great cost the West has rejected the Nazi and Communist ideologies. The West is slowly waking up to the fact that Islam today with huge injection of funds from oil rich states is globally able to act on its more violent and imperial directives (Sura , Hadith), especially against Western Democratic Secular Societies. Why in the West it is problematic and polically incorrect to oppose the Islamic religious ideology? All mainstream Sunni and Shia jurisprudence reject Western secular societies and actively call for the destruction of modern Western democracies. Freedom of speech (Danish Artist), democracy, critical thinking and inovation are all rejected and to be erased. Why then are Western countries labelled racist when they reject mosques, minarets, sharia and the niqab within Europe? Is it racist to reject an ideology? Why do so many muslims migrate to the hated Western countries? Why do so many muslim refugees not choose to immigrate to insanely rich Islamic countries? Why do the vast majority of imams want women reject education and careers and subjugate themselves to having many babies for Islam? Think about it, its War! Bombs and terror are just fleeting micro-second events in history, however building communities and changing demographics is a much more permanent solution if you want to win and willing to wait for victory. I am worried with current trends that we haven’t seen the clash of civilisations, as the worst is yet to come…..

May 24th, 2011 at 12:56 am

Jade

152

I hate Muslims and do not want to live with these parasites. They are evil and they lie about wanting a better life in our country.

If they wanted our way of life then they would live as we do instead of building Muslim schools and Mosques. They would eat the same food and stop trying to force halal meat onto us (which in my onion represents animal cruelty), they would dress the way we dress and not force their women to cover their heads and condemn western women for not covering their heads. They would read the bible instead of the Koran. Bury their dead in Christian graves instead of demanding that we dig up our dead relatives so that they can create Muslim cemeteries. The list just goes on and on but the bottom line is that Muslims do not value our society and they won’t stop until they have destroyed it completely.

Get rid of these monsters (Muslims) before they take over the world and believe me that is what they plan on doing.

May 29th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

Jade

153

Perhaps they have already taken over. It amazes me how these people bomb us, then we open our door to let them come in by the droves and give them everything they demand. This is insanity and our government has been bought off by Islamic tycoons. But it is us who will pay the price and because we will become slaves to the Muslims who are already taking over our country. Wake up Australia, Europe and America and drive the Muslims out before they kill you in your sleep.

May 29th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

Wendy

154

The typical Aussie family is having on average 3 children in their lifetime..give or take a couple. In islamic-Muslim families, it can be over 10- 15 children- remember, their religion allows multiple wives, so just think about that. It will not beong before all those children grow up, under super strong Islamic beliefs, one being that WE as Australians are the Infidel, and death should be upon us all..it will only be a matter of time, before the islamists overtake the Australian population- and at this rate it WILL happen, unless Muslim/islamic people are stopped from coming here.
It isn’t about racism…or their country- it is about the religion they follow, from birth, that is destroying the safety net of most Australians.
They want to come here, and demand laws be changed to Sharia laws..ban christmas, the Easter Bunny (!), they want women to cover themselves, and they are determined to change the minds, and lifestyles of all Australians. Their beliefs are not peaceful and loving as some try to have us believe- they WILL kill if they -in their own minds, feel their Quaran (Or however its spelt) is compromised, and if the women disobey the word of Islam, or disobey their husbands. Other family members CAN and WILL kill their own daughters, wives, Aunties etc…
What amazes me- is they come here- many illegally, from their war torn country- looking for ‘shelter’, and then start with all these demands, so that we can accomodate their needs…Halal meat, special Schools, special houseing, and places of worship- rather than being appreciative for our peaceful country allowing them free entry!
Remember- Australian women are looked upon as dogs to an Islamic Imam- if they hate us THAT much, why come here, if our way of life is SO bad in their eyes, why do you think they came here- besides the fact we have a very soft Government at the moment??? Because they fully intend to convert us all to Islam.
They come here – have scores of children, and raise them all on these beliefs, can you imagine the hatred these children will have in another 15 years?
AND – the men DO NOT WORK. They all claim benefits from the Government! How many of those Muslim/Islamist, who wear those long white shirt things with tea-cosy things on their heads, do you see in Woolworths working? Or at Holdens, or any factory for that matter???? NONE! Their clothes would be a work place hazard! Would they wear something different so that they can work, like most Australians? NO- they sit at home,praying over and over all day long for death to the Infidels! US! While racking in thousands of Government Handouts!!!
Enough is enough! If they want to live by a religion, that oppresses females, and teaches boys to kill then they should do so in the country they hailed from. Australia does not want Islamic faith, and they should be either turned around on their boats or denied access.
You mark my words…in another 10 years, if the influx of Muslim/Islamists does not stop, we will start to see suicide bombings and killings like we are seeing in London, and Europe, it is only a matter of time……..
….and yet again, another stoning death in the news..Islam at its finest.

‘…A teenage boy has allegedly claimed the stoning to death of a Muslim girl who participated in a beauty contest was justified under Islam. Three Muslim youths are being investigated and one of the group, a 16-year-old boy, is under arrest. He allegedly told police Ms Koren had “violated the laws of Sharia” and he had no regrets about her death….’

And this is what they want to bring to Australia…say NO now! Before its too late…

June 1st, 2011 at 8:30 am

Sue

155

Our governments are not listening to us and western societies are rapidly eroding because of multiculturalism. We are watching our culture disintegrate and we are being denied a voice because if we say anything we are called racist and threatened with legal ramifications. No one asked us is we wanted multiculturalism; it has just been forced upon us. As children brought up with one set of values and we understood the law, but now we are being told to forget everything we were taught and live under a new system that is tearing our society apart. I can’t adapt to these changes and feel like an outcast in my own country because my rights are being taken away from me and everything I had been taught to believe in is being destroyed. Now I want to leave this world.

June 12th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

Christine

156

What about a white muslim female, 5th generation (i think) Australian of anglo descent? What will you do about me? This is a racist debate, its not muslims, I bet all you on here don’t want asian immigration either huh? I’m not a terrorist and i’m studying to be a doctor and SAVE LIVES, I won’t push my religion on you but I pray you stop persecuting us.

June 23rd, 2011 at 9:41 pm

157

What about a white muslim female, 5th generation (i think) Australian of anglo descent? What will you do about me?

Hang our heads and weep for our fellow countrymen probably.

And please don’t frame a dislike of Islam as some kind of race issue. I despise your beliefs as much as I despise those same belies held by a person from the East.

Islam is NOT just another religion, it’s a full guide to living, political, legal and spiritual.

Tell me, did you convert because it annoyed your parents?

Christine Reply:
June 26th, 2011 at 8:53 am

Seriously? To annoy my parents? How childish is that? I’m a little insulted actually. No, I converted because Islam is a religion of peace (those terrorists are NOT true muslims, nor are they my brothers and sisters and god will punish them). Islam when not abused by men, gives women a greater freedom, we are more liberated and I am happy with my choice, it gives me what Christianity could not.

Seriously? To annoy my parents, i’m still laughing at that.

Patrick Carroll Reply:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

“I converted because Islam is a religion of peace”….

I can’t type I’m laughing so hard at that one!!!!

…Much funnier than the parents comment!!

Christine Reply:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:03 pm

Just like Christianity and Judaism, its the extremists who give us a bad name

donny Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:46 am

i don’t think Christine is your real name. Your language sounds you are native indons

June 23rd, 2011 at 10:53 pm

Ron

158

You’ll never stop them life as we know it has changed because of them try getting on a plane now. They will rule Australia you just can’t stop it. After travelling the world for 15 years and coming home to a country that has been gutted by tax and Muslim religion I know our future. We are so young compared to the rest of the world. We are one of the last to be polluted by this disguting religion with it’s false god. I miss the old Australia with free speech and every body lived in a similar way. Now I look to taking my family to the country and getting away from the unsafe world created by these so call passive Muslims. Let’s see how that is in 5 years when the blow up the opera house or rape your baby girl. Do you know in their religion it’s not rape they have the right to do what they want because of the cloths she wares. Ausiies brace your self you haven’t seen any thing yet they are just beginning. Find a place in the country and remember how it was. It’s a shame we can’t fight this war like our fathers did.

True Blue Reply:
March 4th, 2012 at 4:44 am

I’ll be there, fighting with you Ron, in honour of my grandfather and the WW2 generation. It is a disgrace that we allow this infiltration, when the rate of immigration far out weighs natural birth. It makes a mockery of our forefathers who built this honest and true nation. Australians should be proud of who they are and close the borders before it is too late.

Bring back Aussie mateship.

July 30th, 2011 at 7:14 am

michael

159

muslims think they will rule australia , if that happens and the law ends up at my door they will be faced with my law which will be worse than theres , im sick of hereing about their attacks on aussie women because they dont dress appropriate enough for their standards , banning xmas , easter , etc . they seem to be the people jumping immigration queues ,where people starving in africa have to wait. if these people have money to get to indonesia then send them back home , dont put them in detention centres as i am sick of spending my hard earned tax money of them. go back to the old days when the air force kicked in the after burners on their planes above the boats which caused them to crack and take on water so they have to turn back . stand up for aussie rights not muslim rights .

September 22nd, 2011 at 10:03 pm

donny

160

it’s only the whiteys with brain problem who converts.

January 12th, 2012 at 9:48 am

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