3
Sep

A tale of two cities

   Posted by: Bozwell   in Bozwell, In The news, Law and Order

Sedat Avci–what a guy. What an upstanding member of our community, someone we can all be proud of. He is a victim of our cruel legal system in the State of Victoria.

You see, harshly branded “The Night Stalker”, Avci sexually assaulted six women across Melbourne. Now though, in custody and awaiting sentencing for these crimes, he claims that he is having a hard time and should be allowed out on bail (his kind family offering their $350,000 house as surety). Apparently this guy has been threatened by other prisoners and fears for his safety…

Here is some of what he has allegedly done to deserve a jail term…

From the Herald Sun,

He faces 29 charges, including seven counts of rape, four counts of abduction for sexual penetration, and a single count of theft.

The attacker told the women he had a knife, and in one case a gun, the court heard.

The last attack was on a 26-week pregnant woman, in front of her children aged three and five, on August 17.

Mr Avci grabbed the 38-year-old woman from behind in the hallway, and forced her into the master bedroom, where he assaulted her, Sen-Constable Bannon told the court.

“At one point the complainant was holding one of the children in her arms … and the other child was hanging onto her leg,” she told the court.

“The accused has pushed the complainant and the children onto the ground.”

Read the whole article here.

I wait with baited breath to see what Avci receives as his punishment.

Meanwhile on the other side of the world…

Police in the Washington State city of Bellingham have reason to believe that they have a vigilante to contend with. Someone has sent a letter to the Bellingham Newspaper claiming responsibility for the slaying of two child rapists, adding to it the implication that his or her work is not done yet.

Reading stories like this one makes me wonder whether or not most people over there aren’t silently praising someone like this for taking the law into their own hands.

Considering the rage so many victims of crime must feel being at the mercy of a forgiving, lenient criminal justice system such as ours, it may only be a matter of time before we see something similar occur here.

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78 comments so far

dee
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I’ve often wondered why those with the required talents dont form a pedophile hit squad. An American friend told me that career pedophiles in his home city had a way of disappearing – it was common knowledge that the people behind it were cops who had had enough.

There is only one way to deal with pedophiles and people like Avci – yep, thats the way!

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September 3rd, 2005 at 12:36 pm
Rachel
 2 

Remind me when this guy carks it so I can spit on his grave. I don’t believe any of us have the right to take another life, so I hope he rots in jail. And things like this also makes me wonder how the hell families can still support such a monster? If I had children and they did something like this I would have to completely cut them off. People say that blood is better than water, but people like Avci have poison running through their veins.

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September 3rd, 2005 at 1:16 pm
Skylark
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I’m sure a long boring life of sewerage works maintenance is just the thing for this guy.

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September 3rd, 2005 at 8:32 pm
D.T
 4 

I’ve got a better idea,give me five minutes in a cell with it and I’ll deal real justice.

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September 3rd, 2005 at 8:52 pm
Patrick
 5 

I wait with baited breath to see what Avci receives as his punishment.

A bond?

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September 4th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Kati
 6 

Reading stories like this one makes me wonder whether or not most people over there aren’t silently praising someone like this for taking the law into their own hands.

I doubt Americans would be very silent in their support of this vigilante. He is probably getting a lot of encouragement to keep up the good work. It doesn’t break my heart in the least if he rids the world of a lot of filithy scum.

As for Avci maybe the Victorian tax payer will get lucky and he will meet with a horrible dismembering accident.

I really doubt he he is being threatened. Criminals might have a problem with child molesters or sick and twisted serial killers but they would care less about a rapist.

He wants out because he has the urge to rape again. He is probably being treated like the new kid on the block and he is in need of feeling powerful.

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September 4th, 2005 at 10:41 am
A.D
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all you guys that dont have an understanding and an aim/goal in life, all i ask is to speak when he gets out of jail, You know how they say the i will have the last LAUGH well time will tell. and the people writing about going into the cell with him for a few minutes, huh come try a minute with me!!!

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September 11th, 2005 at 10:20 pm
Gravelrash
 8 

A.D…..how brave of you! What a man! A challenge….with no contact information. Well done! Do you feel like a hero now?
Explain to me, please….I’m just an ignorant kaffir….. exactly HOW do you justify support of this worm??
“….all you guys that dont have an understanding and an aim/goal in life.”
I do have aims in life, actually.
First and foremost, to make sure my country never has to bend the knee to scum like you and Avci…. and most other “men of middle eastern appearance”.

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September 12th, 2005 at 1:44 pm
A.D
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Gravelrash yeh that’s right i am brave. Your not just an ignorant kaffir but also a pig, Avci hasn’t been proven guilty of any of the charges so before you make a judgement maybe you should wait till November 11 & then post your lame thoughts … Your just racist! Im an Australian but Australia doesn’t need scum like you. =)

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September 12th, 2005 at 11:03 pm
Patrick
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And if he is found to be guilty you will be sure to come and let us know…..right?

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September 12th, 2005 at 11:50 pm
Bozwell
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I would like to think that it’s not a matter of “if” but when he is found guilty.

…and let me make this perfectly clear…

This is not about Avci’s race, creed or culture. In fact when I wrote this, that was the furthest thing from my mind. I can also state with certainty that the victims of this person’s “alleged” crimes cared not about such things at the time of these offences occurring and they do not care about such things now.

My intent was to criticise the “alleged” actions of the person in question rather than making comment on such a persons race.

Had I intended to use this story as a vehicle to air my views on anything other than the fact that Avci has been accused of these horrendous crimes, the readers would most certainly have known about it because I would have made comments in relation to that.

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September 13th, 2005 at 5:22 am
V.S
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This is in response to all you ignorant people who have posted a nasty comment about Sedat Avci. A few keys points every educated person should already know (but as proven by your comments not one of you have a clue)
1. We live in Australia and if any of you had the slightest idea about our legal system you would know that the way it works here is ‘EVERY PERSON IS PRESUMED INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY’.

2. Continuing on from point 1. Under section 5.15 of the Standard guidelines for corrections in Australia 5.15 Remand prisoners are presumed to be innocent until found guilty, and as such must be treated without restrictions other than those necessary for prison organisation and the security of the prison and the prisoner.

3. Definition of ‘alledged’- declared but not PROVED, it is supposed.

4. And the last point I would like to educate you people on before I give my personal opinion is in regards to the standard of proof in a criminal case. ‘The standard of proof to secure a conviction in a criminal case is:
‘BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT’.

This is a response to all you ignorant people who pasted a nasty comment.

Dee: to be quite honest comparing Sedat to a pedophile and then wanting people to ‘disappear’, very sick girl you are. Sedat and Pedophiles – absolutely no connection and if you can give me a connection I would be very interested to hear it. And as for murdering people who have committed a crime, who made you or anyone else above the law? Have you not heard of two wrongs do not equal a right?

Rachel: at least you have a tiny bit of decency ‘I don’t believe any of us have the right to take another life’ (the only thing you said which made sense). As for spitting on his grave be ashamed because obviously you have no respect for the dead. And in response to how can families support such a ‘monster’?, let me give you a clue. That’s what families and friends are there for to support their loved ones in hard times, especially when nothing has been proven. Its called LOYALTY maybe you should look it up!

Skylark: not even worth a comment really except obviously you have a long boring life!

D.T: ‘5 mins in a cell’ all I can say to you is GET OVER YOURSELF, & STOP BEING A HERO’

Katie: who are you to assume how he is being treated in prison? Im guessing you not in their to witness it so unless you know for a fact maybe you should keep quite, and maybe think about this – have you ever thought that maybe the reason he wants out is because he doesn’t belong there in the first place? No I didn’t think you would because your just as judgmental and the next person

7. A.D you are right we will have the last laugh =)

8. Gravelrash: AD’s comments to you pretty much said it all. IGNORANT is the simplest way to describe you. By the way its not YOUR country its OURS which includes Sedat.

11. Bozwell: while reading your article I sensed a lot of sarcasm and sensed that you think you know it all. Take a step back and think, your main source was the Herald Sun – reliable? I think not. ‘When he is found guilty’, I would hate to have you on my jury a person who can make a judgement on innocence or guilt from an article in the Herald Sun, obviously is just as ignorant as the rest of the people who have made such comments.

You may think me attacking everybody’s comments was harsh and unfair, but my main goal wasn’t to sit here and argue Sedat’s innocence, it was to give you people a taste of your own medicine. If you think im attacking and judging you and its wrong, take a look at the comments you have posted, you have all attacked and judged a 19-year old boy who is ‘ALLEDGED’ (incase you still don’t know the meaning I defined it at the start), to have committed these crime. You people must think you are above everyone else, you have proven that in your eyes its Guilty until proven Innocent, and its people like you who make this world unfair. All I want to say is why not keep your comments to yourself and like AD said wait till November 11. Sedat is on the same level as you and me, and has the right to be treated fairly, and not be judged by uneducated fools such as yourself’s.

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September 15th, 2005 at 1:39 pm
Patrick
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So you are claiming he is innocent VS?

Thank you by the way for the lecture…..I am sure we are all so much better informed now.

I must say the case against him looks grim for you, especially this bit

Police had matched samples taken from the victims to Mr Avci’s DNA, and fingerprints on a newspaper at the Carlton home had also linked Mr Avci to the crime, Sen-Constable Bannon said.

I guess we will have to wait and see.
Now if I may return your favor with a lecture of sorts…This is a “Weblog”. That means it is a place for people to write about things. The case of your mate Sedat is worthy of writing about. The site is called “Its A Matter Of Opinion”. Please note use of the word “Opinion”.

Also note that you have been allowed to express yours here every bit as freely as the rest of us. I guess one could not say the same for the rape victims.

I do not know if he is guilty or innocent, I only know that in 100% of violent crime cases and that is 100% I (speaking just for me of course) will always without fail be behind the victim. Whether the perpetrator is my Dad, brother or son.

Time will tell, but I suspect if he is found guilty, we will not be graced with your presence again.

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September 15th, 2005 at 2:47 pm
Kati
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V.S.

Thank you so much for enlightening all of us to his innocents. We were under the impression that DNA evidence was considered more than just circumstantial and would convict his oh-so-innocent little ass. It is a good thing you corrected our mistake or we might have believed that nasty ole DNA evidence.

You see we didn’t take into account that your poster child for SERIAL rapist everywhere was just misunderstood and unlucky in love. He just can’t seem to attract a decent consisting female that won’t scream rape afterwards. To have one bad relationship (one night stand, whatever) that ends in being accused of rape well that’s just awful and questionable. But to have several women crying rape then that must be a conspiracy and women are out to get him. Oh and to think what that poor man has suffered.

I guess when you look at it that way evidence as solid as DNA becomes circumstantial.

I think if I were you I would just tell Avci to put himself in his victims place and bend over and take it like a man. He can sit in jail and enjoy it for a few months. This is Victoria and that will probably be the only time he serves even if convicted so fuck off.

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September 15th, 2005 at 4:06 pm
Bozwell
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VS,

As Patrick said, this Weblog is called “It’s a matter of opinion”. That’s the whole point and congratulations for spending most of your time attacking other people’s opinion rather than offering your own.

It is clear that your interest lies not in whether Avci is guilty or innocent, you say so yourself. You are far more interested in his right to a fair trial. Do you think that by people airing their views here that he will not receive one? Oh and I know this was not the point of your diatribe but just for kicks, are you a member of Avci’s legal team?

Your eagerness to suggest that you will have the last laugh makes me wonder what you are not telling us. What is the evidence to suggest that he is not in fact guilty of these crimes?

Apart from anything else it astonishes me that you would be so offended and dislike to such an extent what has been said–yet take the time to make these comments. It upsets you that people do not share your views so predictably there is little logic in what you have to offer, other than to lecture like a school teacher.

It is disturbing that you seem to be more concerned with what I think about the issue rather whether the chap did it or not. Is it not in everyone’s interest that the truth be told and that if he is guilty, that he be stopped from raping other women? You seem not to care one way or the other.

It is as though you think that somehow your scolding will change my mind, or that of the other commentators here.

Sadly you are mistaken.

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September 15th, 2005 at 4:10 pm
Rachel
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Mate, if I had a family member who was a murderer or rapist I would have no problem with the victims spitting on their grave. In fact, I would encourage it. Yes, I feel loyalty to my family, but not at the expense of my fellow man. DNA evidence is stacked against this guy, and as Kati pointed out DNA is hardly circumstantial evidence. His crimes are disgusting and horrific, you have no idea how psychologically debilitating it is to be raped, because if you did you would not condone such an act by proxy.

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September 15th, 2005 at 4:50 pm
V.S
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funny to see how none of you like to be attacked isnt it? that is the only reason i did it how do you think sedats family and friends feel when they have to sit here and read such bullshit from people who do not have a clue?
DNA from rape victims have not been matched and if any of you were at the trial you would know that when the magistrate asked for the police to prove the DNA from the rape victims to Sedat omg wat do u know the cops couldnt, so yea your right there is things i know that you dont thats why i suggest that you shouldnt make the judgement that he is guilty until you all know the whole story.
Your right this is an opinions page and my opinion is that we wait till November 11, And yes i do beleive that people who write such things and voice their judgmental attitudes is a disadvantage to sedat cause even when he is cleared narrow-minded people like you will still judge him.
The girl who told me to fuck off just proves that you can take talking shit bout people who cannot write back but you dont like to hear what people think of u and your views so if thats the case why voice your opinion at all.
Im not trying to change anyones mind im just saying maybe you shoukld get all the facts before you’s judge people. If you ever have to be put in the situation and you are innocent im sure you wouldnt like people judging you before the trial has even started. “Is it not in everyone’s interest that the truth be told and that if he is guilty, that he be stopped from raping other women? You seem not to care one way or the other” to this comment, it is in everyones interest that thr truth come out but you do not know the truth so why are you judging him?
Katie do you know if any of these rape victims have picked sedat out in a line up? do you know if any of these victims have directly said yes sedat did it? its the complete opposite actually the description all these women gave of the man that raped them does not even resemble sedat.
You can attack my comments all you like, if you think i sound like im lecturing you then so be it, my reason for attcking you was clear dont beleive everything you read, and just like you dont like being attcked either does sedat.

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September 15th, 2005 at 7:01 pm
Bozwell
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VS,

Tell me more about the facts of the case as I am interested. You seem to know much more about it than me.

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September 15th, 2005 at 7:34 pm
V.S
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sorry but im not going to say anything else about the case its not my place, all i ask if you just wait till november 11 and then judge him, i just found it unfair that when i looked at all your comments you all didnt really know all the facts and judged and attacked him straight away.

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September 15th, 2005 at 7:46 pm
Patrick
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VS, we have only newspaper reports to go by, it you have a problem with the way the news is reported, go bitch to them.
If they have unfairly told lies in their report, sue them. I must say I will be watching very closley come November the 11th.

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September 15th, 2005 at 10:41 pm
Kati
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I’m impressed that you care so much what we think that you feel it is important to try and change our minds. I wonder why that is? All of us know that a court of law doesn’t prove a man’s innocents or guilt. A court of law can only convict or acquit based on evidence or the lack there of. Innocent people have gone to jail on no more than circumstantial evidence. And the guilty have walked free only to offend again. Those are facts of life.

Our opinions here won’t convict or acquit Avci. Nor will an acquittal prove his innocents. But based on the facts as we know them he has a problem. You expect to come here and say he is innocent and we should believe you. Why, who are you that we should just take your word for it? Are you the rapist? If you’re a lawyer then you should know better than to be here saying anything. If you’re a friend or family member of Avci then we will just consider the source.

I can say one thing for you. You aren’t very good with details because you haven’t manage to spell my name properly yet. I guess he should hope you’re not his lawyer.

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September 16th, 2005 at 12:23 am
Rachel
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No offense VS, but at It’s a Matter of Opinion we’re like-minded people shooting the shit on a website. If you don’t like what we have to say there is a little X on the top righthand side of the computer screen you are more than welcome to click upon.

Taking all the bullshit away. Are you saying that Sedat is innocent of the crime of rape of these women in spite of DNA evidence? You mentioned something about a lineup but did not go into details. Would you mind elaborating upon that? Maybe I’m uneducated but I would have thought DNA evidence was stronger than a lineup.

I’ve been raped before. Many years ago. And violently at that. Unfortunately I was unable to pursue the case because I could not identify the perpetrator in a lineup. I was unable to pursue the case because I could barely identify what the perpetrator looked like. When someone forcefully shoves their penis inside you at the same time as slapping you upside the head the last thing you notice is what their face looks like. What does remain, however, is the DNA.

If you have a strong argument to make which proves Sedat’s innocence, go for it. If you continue to rationalise his crimes then look to that little X on the top righthand side of the computer screen.

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September 16th, 2005 at 12:36 am
Bozwell
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MY God Rachel. I had no idea and don’t quite know what to say, but I think you must know how I felt when I read this. My words just simply will not go far enough in conveying my admiration for you.

Your strength inspires me completely and utterly. As well as this, I think that if there was an argument to be won here, you just won it girl.

God-bless you.

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September 16th, 2005 at 5:11 am
V.S
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obviously none of you people are reading what i am trying to say so this has been a waste of time, i said there has been no DNA from the 7 rape victims that have matched with Avci’s, so stop accusing him of rape. And as your the girl who has been through that i am sorry for what you have been through and i beleive that people like that should pay for their crimes but avci wasnt the one who raped you and he hasnt raped anyone else so why not just give him a fair go ? obviously none of you people like to hear the other side, and im not trying to change your minds i am trying to say wait till november 11 before you judge him

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September 16th, 2005 at 12:27 pm
Patrick
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As I said earlier VS. If you don’t like how the Herald Sun reported the story, go bitch to them. If it is incorrect sue them.

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September 16th, 2005 at 12:58 pm
Rachel
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VS, if I felt I could pursue a logical conversation with you I might try. However, I’ve been through enough bullshit in my life that I couldn’t be bothered wasting my energy with such noncoherent ramblings that you provide. And last of all, do not feel sorry for me. I have never asked for, or attempted to, elicit sympathy.

Boz, I honestly believe most people have the strength that I possess, it’s just not everyone must deal with such confronting situations and therefore cannot understand, whereas people like you understand such things inherently. I therefore feel truly privileged to count you as a friend.

Patrick, I would love to present you with a goldplated hammer for Christmas, because in one short line you hit the nail on the head…

VS, I do believe I mentioned something about a little X on the top righthand side of the computer screen. Unless you can come up with something coherent, please try it.

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September 17th, 2005 at 1:19 am
A.D
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hey guys im bak!!! i know you miss me, just reading over the humorous comments made by some people just makes me wonder, if you had to go by what the media points out>> im speechless. Racheal i would love to present you with a rusted nail that i have in my shed for Christmas, because im sure it would hurt. oh and i know a good general practitioner if you need advice. You people really need to get your facts right, time will tell..

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September 20th, 2005 at 12:35 am
Rachel
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Try presenting some facts perhaps? In a coherent manner?

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September 20th, 2005 at 2:24 am
Bozwell
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Rachel,

Boz, I honestly believe most people have the strength that I possess, it’s just not everyone must deal with such confronting situations and therefore cannot understand, whereas people like you understand such things inherently. I therefore feel truly privileged to count you as a friend.

You know the feeling is mutual–friends forever you and I:smile:

As for this post of mine attracting the Looney Brigade, well I simply refuse to respond to them any further.

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September 20th, 2005 at 2:54 am
Rachel
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Now let me think… respond to the loony brigade, or have another drink? I think we all know the answer:grin:

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September 20th, 2005 at 9:29 am
V.S
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the funny thing is i have showed you some facts i have told u in court the police could not produces the DNA which you all keep saying has been matched with the rape victims, so miss rachel your the one who is incapable of having a logical conversation in here, u all keep telling me this is a matter of opinion page but its funny how none of u listen to the people who have an opinion which is different to your own, so it seems as if you guys r hypocrits here, this isnt a matter of opinion is it from what i have seen its here for a bunch of people who have the same opinion and think they are so smart and know it all, i hope noone ever has to go through what sedat is but one day if someone judges you for something u havnt done and u dont like it remember that ur that person!

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September 20th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Patrick
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For Christ sakes VS, for the last time, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT THE HERALD SUN REPORTED GO COMPLAIN TO THEM.

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September 20th, 2005 at 10:05 pm
V.S
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FOR CHRISTS SAKE PATRICK OPEN UR EYES AND REALISE THATS NOT THE POINT IM TRYING TO PUT ACROSS! .. NEWSPAPERS WILL ALWAYS WRITE STUFF THAT ISNT NECESSARILY ALWAYS TRUE, IM JUST VOICEING MY OPINION (ISNT THAT WHAT YOU ALL KEEP REMINDING ME THIS PAGE IS ABOUT?) AND SAYING DONT BELEIVE EVERYTHING YOU READ UNTIL ITS PROVEN IN A COURT OF LAW

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September 20th, 2005 at 10:51 pm
Patrick
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I look foward to it being over one way or the other. I am wondering if you will still be here bitching and moaning if he is found guilty.
Ok you think he is not guilty, fine thats your opinion. You have made it clear. Do you expect that by comming in here pontificating upon us you are going to change our minds? Who are you that we should believe a single word you say?
We will let the jury decide as you keep saying, then shut up until they have.

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September 20th, 2005 at 11:28 pm
V.S
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i was never here to change ur minds thats wat u thick people dont get i just said give him a fair go, so maybe u should SHUT UP and not make him out to be guilty until u know the truth. and i never said you have to beleive me u dont have to, just dont judge him yet!

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September 20th, 2005 at 11:47 pm
Skylark
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VS- Don’t flog a dead horse. And learn to spell or shut up.

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September 20th, 2005 at 11:56 pm
V.S
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this is obviously more for personal attacks than matter of opinion on sedat and skylark if u have nothing better to say than that then ur the one who needs to shut up, im not going to stoop to ur level and say wat i really think of u and ur comments. if you people come to an opinion page be ready to hear peoples opinions, i heard urs and im not attacking everyone just saying why not give him a fair go seeing as you dont know him, but all u people can do is throw stupid comments that have no relevance to sedat or the case in question

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September 21st, 2005 at 12:11 am
Rachel
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boo hoo:cry: because really, your opinion means soooooooooooo much to me!

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September 21st, 2005 at 3:33 am
Felis
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Guys,
I cannot be fooled so easily.
Which one of you invented this VS character?
Confess now or I’ll suspend your account.
Even the worst retard cannot be as stupid as your VS person.
Please try more believable characters in the future.

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September 21st, 2005 at 8:02 am
V.S
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so explain to me why you are all on an opinions page? and felis stupid am i? why cause i dont beleive everything written in the newspapers, gee if im stupid id hate to imagine what u r

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September 21st, 2005 at 12:16 pm
Rachel
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You’ve got to be joking. That’s despicable. The ones of us telling the truth won’t have a problem with you proceeding to find out. How freaking lame.

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September 21st, 2005 at 2:52 pm
Skylark
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VS – I don’t know why but I just can’t stop laughing at whatever passes for your comment. Have you ever thought of being a comedian. YOu got talent there.

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September 21st, 2005 at 3:16 pm
Rachel
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He/she would probably forget their punchlines all the time!

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September 21st, 2005 at 3:29 pm
Felis
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Rachy, Skylark,
Are you telling me it is a real character?
How absolutely amazing.:mrgreen:

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September 21st, 2005 at 3:41 pm
Nes
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Hi, I am a friend of Sedat Avci and people ask how the families of such monsters can support them. Well this is the answer…. When you are a friend of such a person and they claim that they haven’t commited such a crime, and you know deep down that they couldn’t have commited such a horrid act, you naturally believe and support them. What are friends and family for? I believe that Sedat Avci is a victim of corrupt police who can no longer be bothered in this investigation. Police claim that they have DNA evidence, but why couldn’t they supply the judge with the evidence during the court case? These are only claims, NOT EVIDENCE! I attended this court case and nothing is as it seems, the media is bias, therefore society only consumes the information presented by the media. And naturally they believe it.
Also concerning Sedat’s family supporting him, you wonder how this could be? Well i was the one attending his mother during his case for bail, and this woman was devestated that her son was being charged of several accounts of rape. This lady was having a nervous breakdown, she does not want to believe that her son could commit such a crime and neither as his friends do we! We support our friend along with his family, because we know that he couldn’t have commited such a crime and if he really did, I myself hopes that he rots in jail. Sedat is innocent…

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November 9th, 2005 at 11:10 am
Bozwell
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Thanks for your comments Nes.

I guess we will just have to wait for the verdict–a couple of days from now if I am not mistaken?

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November 9th, 2005 at 3:58 pm
Rachel
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of course you would support someone if you believed they were innocent, it just appears that the evidence is stacked against Sedat in this case. As Boz just mentioned, we just have to wait for the verdict. If you are correct in your claims about the DNA not being presented the jury would have seen that as well.

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November 9th, 2005 at 4:46 pm
sue
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i am one of avci’s friend and have known him for several years now and he is totally innocent. he is not the type of guy to go out and rape people. he doesnt need to. he can get any girl his a good looking bloke. he doesnt need to force people. so stop criticising the bloke he is a very decent guy. just because you dont know him you are judging him by what the community says. think about something before you blame someone.

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March 31st, 2006 at 2:25 pm
rachy
 49 

Okay then, Sue, why is there so much compelling evidence against him?

Also, just because someone is able to pull a chick does not mean they are incapable of rape. Rape is an issue of power, little to do with sex.

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March 31st, 2006 at 6:14 pm
Bozwell
 50 

I just want to know what’s happened to the guy…What’s going on–has he been convicted or what?

The case was supposed to have been resolved in November.

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April 1st, 2006 at 9:16 pm
S.K
 51 

Thank god for justice!
Although the sentence that was handed down to Avci will never compensate the women he violated and families he destroyed but atleast he will never be able to harm another soul.

I knew Avci, which makes this so hard…..but wether its a relative, a friend or countrymen should not matter in your judgement, so to all those people who remain loyal to him and support him “JUST REMEMBER those women could have easily been your mum, sister or daughter..SCUM WILL BE SCUM!”
p.s I hope the rumors i hear about the treatment of rapists in prison by other inmates are true!

WIN FOR SOCIEtY!

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April 7th, 2006 at 7:24 pm
N.G
 52 

I knew Avci, which makes this so hard…..but wether its a relative, a friend or countrymen should not matter in your judgement, so to all those people who remain loyal to him and support him “JUST REMEMBER those women could have easily been your mum, sister or daughter..SCUM WILL BE SCUM!”
p.s I hope the rumors i hear about the treatment of rapists in prison by other inmates are true!

I would really like to know who you are and where you know Avci from S.K BECAUSE TO ME YOU DONT MAKE SENSE. if you really did know who avci was and what kind of background he has you wouldny have been thinking the way you think now. ive known mr Avci for more than 6 years and in the six years of our freindship not one wrong move was seen by him. people like yourself get me really angry due to speaking without knowing the true side of the story which were the ones we saw whilst attending his hearing.my last words for YOU IS I HOPE YOU ARE INVOLVED IN A CASE SIMILAR AND THEN I ASSUME YOU WONT BE SPEAKING THE WAY YOU ARE NOW WE HAVE A CORRUPT LEGAL SYSTEM WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE LIFE HARDER FOR ALL HUMAN BEINGS LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY.

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April 12th, 2006 at 2:00 pm
rachy
 53 

N.G. You might have noticed that all these people who claim to know Avci haven’t once said anything to refute the evidence against him. For example, what do you think of the following?

Avci, an RMIT engineering student, was arrested yesterday after fingerprints left on a newspaper during an attempted assault of a woman in front of two children at a Carlton home on Wednesday afternoon allegedly matched those from an earlier theft conviction.

How did his fingerprints get there?

And if you say Avci has done nothing wrong in the time you have known him, what about the aforementione theft conviction?

I HOPE YOU ARE INVOLVED IN A CASE SIMILAR AND THEN I ASSUME YOU WONT BE SPEAKING THE WAY YOU ARE NOW

I am actually. And I’m still speaking the way I am now.

You said not one wrong move wasseen by him. How do you answer to the theft conviction?

You, and other friends of his, have come here and berated us for not knowing The True Story. Well, TELL US the true story.

We’re waiting

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April 12th, 2006 at 6:09 pm
rachy
 54 

Also, N.G., how would you respond to the following which was in an article in the age some time ago

But Detective Senior Constable Noella Bannon said police had matched samples taken from the victims to Avci’s DNA and that there was an unacceptable risk Avci would reoffend.

Were the DNA results wrong?

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April 12th, 2006 at 6:12 pm
Bozwell
 55 

And waiting and waiting and waiting….

Well said Rachy!

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April 12th, 2006 at 7:22 pm
N.G
 56 

racheal things just do not seem to bve the way the newspaper articles explain them to be as 10 months ago before this my mother was involved in a car accident thanking god she done really well and was home the next night. the following worning newspapers such as the herald sunnnnnn such a big news company had big headings of her supposingly being dead.for your information shes living. my point to you is not everything reporters write are true. i suggest maybe you guys should go down to the actual hearings and listen to how corrupt our legal system is.im pretty well sure you will be amazed.the females who supposingly got assaulted or raped whatever they are dreaming about have left melbourne and are at the moment lost why couldnt they identify him.I beleive mrs so called detective banon has a lot more investigation to do because if sedat avci was the rapist how come the rape issues are still being spoken about all over the town. females are still being raped and assaulted in the same areas.the only thing left for me to say is the reallll rapist is walking around free of mind while the innocent little man is locked up.

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April 27th, 2006 at 9:10 am
N.G
 57 

waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting does anyone have a comment to make. its been a few weeks

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June 17th, 2006 at 9:28 am
Patrick
 58 

Perhaps you can give us details of the continuing rapes that are happening in the same manner as those of Sedat?
The court has apparently found him guilty; pray tell what further comments would you like us to give?

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June 17th, 2006 at 9:52 am
rachy
 59 

So you are telling me that the DNA evidence is wrong, and that this guy also did not have a criminal record? I have repeatedly asked these questions, and not gotten a reply. But now that I know the newspapers absolutely fabricated the fact that Avci’s DNA was found at a few of the scenes I can rest assured that the guy is innocent.

If the newspapers outright lied like you say they have, why isn’t Avci suing for defamation? Oh that’s right, because you’re full of shit.

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June 17th, 2006 at 12:58 pm
Bozwell
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Oh that’s right, because you’re full of shit.

:lol: :lol::lol:

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June 17th, 2006 at 1:39 pm
N.G
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Rachy you know what you can think how you like and speak how you like no one cares that there are people like yourselves on this website making comments of Mr Avci and even if they knew about it they wouldnt care because after all you are being rude about the issue and i believe you are racist also.If the newspapers outright lied like you say they have, why isn’t Avci suing for defamation? for you information that has already been taken care of and you willllllll seeee what will happen next. by the way dont make comments about things you dont know coz youll be sorry. we all know who you are. whos jamie????????????????

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July 24th, 2006 at 9:23 am
Patrick
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We will be watching and waiting with baited breath :roll:

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July 24th, 2006 at 11:55 am
Bozwell
 63 

Avci is sueing everyone eh?

I, like Patrick can’t wait to hear all about it.

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July 24th, 2006 at 3:11 pm
Bozwell
 64 

Can’t wait to find out what happens…Gee whiz this is like days of our lives isn’t it?

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July 24th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
rachy
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no one cares that there are people like yourselves on this website making comments of Mr Avci

Riiiiiiiight. That’s why you keep coming back!

and i believe you are racist also.

Huh? Grasping at straws a little, no?

by the way dont make comments about things you dont know coz youll be sorry.

Try informing me coherently then!

we all know who you are.

Am I supposed to be scared? First you call me a racist, then you threaten me! That’s no way to win an argument.

Why don’t you just tell your story from start to end to put your childish incoherence to an end? It’s pretty hard to take you seriously after nonsense claims of racism on my behalf and empty threats, but I am still willing to listen.

Try me

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July 24th, 2006 at 4:26 pm
Bozwell
 66 

Rachy…

You mean to tell me you’re not intimidated by this idiot? What a shock :lol:

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July 24th, 2006 at 9:32 pm
Patrick
 67 

NG…obviously a tool such as yourself would think Avaci innocent. I mean really, a person who makes such childish threats as you do would probably still believe the moon to be made of cheese.
If it is proven he is in fact innocent I will issue a written apology, however I wouldn’t be in any hurry to write a draft.

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July 26th, 2006 at 4:02 pm
MZ
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I beleive that avci is innocent…

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December 28th, 2006 at 6:06 pm
rachy
 69 

and why is that MZ?

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December 31st, 2006 at 11:59 am
H.S
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i went to high school with sedat and as much as i am against rapists and the sort i would like to remind all of you that it takes a person with a sick mind and a warped personality to do what sedat apperently did not that i am saying sedat is a sick guy i mean he was normal when we were in school. i would just like to say that when we found out ( sedats school mates) we were totally shocked and thought for sure it was a case of mistaken identity and i still believe so there has to be some mistake i know sedat ive had conversations with him i just cant believe that he would do such a disgusting thing i mean no way not sedat not the sedat who would in a minute go help out a mate, not the sedat who would without a minutes hesitation drop what ever he was doing to help out a friend i believe he is innocent and if there really is a justice system in Australia then he be proven innocent. i mean i know sedat avci i haven known his family fo as long as i can remember and i believe deep down inside he is innocent . i mean put your selves in sedats friends or families positions what would you believe ????

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January 19th, 2007 at 4:51 am
a.k
 71 

Please think twice what you say about people do your research first on that person I mean [sedat Avci} dont believe everything you read in the papers look for the truth? After doing some research on sedat I believe he is innocent , he is a kind and loving boy. Please dont be jugemental straight away and care what his poor erderly parents are going through

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January 28th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Joe
 72 

Wow, reading this has been entertaining. You fuckwit supporters of this Sadat fellow with your “He’s a nice boy….” “I went to school with him…” “His mummy loves him…” PUH-LEEEEZZ…Ever heard of Ted Bundy? He was a “nice boy,” good-looking, and well-educated, too. Dahmer was quiet and kept to himself. Fuck, Richard Ramirez has dozens of women who write to him in prison, wanting to be his wife for fuck sake! Bundy did too – before he fried in Florida’s electric chair, “Old Sparky.”

And, to save you some time, yeah, I’m out ot offend you muzzies right out of the gate. I make no bones about it. It drives you all crazy, which is EXACTLY what I seek to do. Sun Tzu in his “Art of War” once said, “If your enemy is quick to anger, then seek to irritate him.” You muzzies are about as loose a group of cannons as I’ve ever met, to wit, your reactions to a bunch of cartoons that portrayed your pedophile prophet for the murderous charlatan that he was.

You Sedat supporters just need to deal with the fact that the guy you thought you knew is not who you thought he was. Get over it. He fooled you and a lot of others. There is no shame in realizing that.

There is shame, however, in denying it and blaming everybody else for being racist. It’s called sympathy for the devil, and it’s the same “reasoning” you muzzies use to justify the jihadis amongst you when your muslim “community leaders” make a half-hearted condemnation of their actions. There is always a caveat: “We condemn these acts of violence, BUT…” It’s another way of saying, “I’m not saying he should have done it, but I can understand why.” It seems almost as though you people believe that a muzzie can do no wrong because he’s a muzzy. Why not just piss on me and tell me it’s raining?

I swear, listening to you muzzies is like listening to the Jim Jones followers in Guyana right before they drank the Kool-Aid.

Islam means “submit.” Go fuck yourselves. I will never submit.

May piss be upon you. Aloha Snack Bar. Mo’ ham, Ed?

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Ayse Reply:
January 16th, 2012 at 11:26 pm

To voice your opinion isn’t the same to being a pathetic racist loser. Attacking ones religion is enough to have me believe you are the pathetic racist loser regardless of what your previous posts were. nothing you say has any value anymore

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January 29th, 2007 at 8:12 am
N.G
 73 

joe you know what i think we should meet i dont think you know who muzzies are y dont you give us that one chance to get to know us im pretty sure ull enjoy the time you spend with us.the case on avci should give you no oppurtunity to be racist you basturd. by the way since you know so much about us let us all piss all ova you dickhead. arrange a time and date well show you wat its all about.and maybe sedat should have fucked you up da arse so you can see wat a real muzzy can do.fuckface

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January 29th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Joe
 74 

:D And who said that I don’t know how to bring out the best in people?

N.G.,

With that brilliantly coherent, grammatically super-structured diatribe of verbal diarrea and laugingly baseless, hopeless threats, I would like to thank you for proving Sun Tzu and me correct.

“If your enemy is quick to anger, then seek to irritate him.”

I sense that you have a large rash developing by now as you seem quite irritated. ;)

And, no, I’m not racist. I hate everybody equally. Want a bikkie? Go fuck yourself. :P

Aloha Snack Bar!

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January 29th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
ek
 75 

Sedat vci is…***SNIP!***

Your comment is vile and has been edited. Don’t bother coming back.

Bozwell.

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June 19th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
ROSE
 76 

i went high school with sedat avci i dnt belive that his a rapists wen i look bak at all the comments on this web page i found it is unfair you all didnt no him well ask his school mates be4 you all comment on him. p.s WE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE 4 HIM. G.H

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August 6th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
H.A
 77 

Have you heard that Sedat’s sisters have been charged with assaulting someone with baseball bats? What a charming family! I see where he gets it from.

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March 21st, 2010 at 11:24 pm

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