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Aug

Weasels in the chicken coop

   Posted by: Past Contributers   in GravelRash, Islam, Politics

“I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic.”

Recently I’ve been banging on about John Howards mooted “Summit” on terror. Obviously, strategic meetings like this are essential, and in my view, long overdue. What I have been unable to fathom, and am finding more incredible with each passing day, is that the minority Islamic community will be consulted and have in-put.
I don’t know if there is an Aesops fable about the wisdom of asking a fox to mind the chicken farm, but there should be!!!
I am aware, and concede, that some argument exists for picking their brains. Wherever some form of “moderate” Islamic good-will exists, we should exploit it. To date, it seems clear that there is precious little of that “good-will” emanating from the supposed “leaders” of Australian Islam.
Does it not strike people as odd? That the people group which has been THE reason for the “Summit” in the first place – no Islamic population= no homegrown terror fears – is to have some degree of input as to “the solution“?
With foreknowledge of the Islamic “best practices” of taqiyya and kitman, coupled with the public statements of many of their so-called “moderates”, how can issues that are so close to National Security be even tabled in front of the group of people suspected of harboring and abeting our “worst case scenario”, let alone allowing them to have input into a planned response? If there are not enough “Australian” Australians knowledgeable to the necessary extent about an Islamic threat, then it is an indictment of all levels of Government, especially our Intelligence gatherers.
What the muslim wants is some sort of “Peak Body”, that consults Government and has its ear. Just a little more “oil” on the “squeaky wheel”. Somewhat similar to Americas’ CAIR, I’d imagine.
This below is a small taste of what CAIR accomplishes in America.
This body has already intimidated many US companies into becomming “Muslim compliant”. General Motors and Dell Computers are just 2 of the better known companies where Islamic religious practices have been enshrined, due solely to CAIR pressuring. The US Army, which is fighting Islamic terror, has “imams”, due to CAIR agitation!
CAIR_Australia is just around the corner, people. I’d say it’s time the red carpet was rolled up and they began to use the tradesmans entrance.
From one of CAIR’s founders:

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth”

Sounds very similar to the words of several Australian “Islamic leaders” ….in the last 3 weeks. Damn it..the whole concept of “Islamic leader” changes from day to day. They shuffle in a new face at will. There is no “Vatican” or “Canterbury” to sanction these men, just power struggles, and the ability to memorise the Koran!
Just which hat will their representatives at the Terror Summit be wearing???
“Google” it yourself, and see how much Saudi money is available to the muslim in Australia! Makings for probably the most influential lobby-group in the country. There are other ways of getting information from arabs, but that seems to only be “sanctioned” and available in Egypt, not Gitmo, not Sydney. Not yet.

Profile CAIR

War On Terror: An American Muslim pressure group has come out strongly against police profiling of young Muslim men behaving suspiciously at train stations. But the group doesn’t have our best interests at heart.

The terror-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, says two New York officials’ push for such targeted profiling on city subways is offensive and ignorant.

“Terror comes in all shapes and sizes,” insists Wissam Nasr, director of CAIR’s New York branch.

Never mind that eight young Muslim men bombed London’s tube. Or that 19 young Muslim men attacked New York in 2001. Or that every suspect on the FBI’s list of most wanted terrorists is a Muslim man, with nearly half going by the name Mohammed.

CAIR’s national spokesman, Ibrahim Hooper, says police should ignore such obvious terror traits and search riders at random, while paying close attention only to people “sweating.” Never mind that during New York’s balmy summer months, that would include folks who don’t remotely fit the terrorist profile.

CAIR should know better than anyone who does fit the terrorist profile. Three of its own officials were recently convicted of terror-related crimes. One even worked for Hooper. He’s now in prison for conspiring to kill Americans.

A lawsuit filed against CAIR by the family of former FBI official John P. O’Neill, who was killed on 9-11, charges that the group, which evolved from a known Hamas front, is “a key player in international terrorism.”

Congress is investigating CAIR and has repeatedly invited its executive director to deny the mounting terror charges under oath. But Nihad Awad, a Palestinian American, refuses. If CAIR is not tied to terrorism, why not clear the air at a televised hearing?

Tellingly, CAIR after 9-11 refused to single out al-Qaida or Osama bin Laden for condemnation. After the London bombings, it endorsed an anti-terror edict so broad it was meaningless – and one that was loaded with qualifiers. (Sounds like our Aussie Mossie response to date)
Instead of condemning attacks against British or American or Israeli non-Muslims, it hedged by denouncing “all acts of terrorism targeting civilians” and “innocent lives” – leaving non-Muslims to wonder if they fall into those categories, knowing that jihadists don’t necessarily consider them innocent or civilian.

(The vaguely worded edict was written by Hooper pal Taha Jaber al-Alwani, who happens to be an unindicted co-conspirator in the ongoing terror case against Sami al-Arian, the alleged U.S. leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad.)

We wonder who and what CAIR, which calls itself a civil-rights defender, is really protecting when it fights targeted profiling at train stations and airports.

CAIR may talk a good patriotic and moderate game. But it has a secret agenda to Islamize America.

Before 9-11, its founder and chairman, Omar Ahmad, also a Palestinian American, told a Muslim audience: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

Before coming to Washington, Hooper himself is on record stating: “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic.”

Hooper is also on record claiming CAIR receives no “support from any overseas group or government.” But land records revealed in the book “Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington” put the lie to that claim.

It turns out that an anti-Israeli foundation run by the crown prince of Dubai owns the very deed to CAIR’s headquarters located almost in the shadow of the U.S. Capitol. The foundation has held telethons to support families of Palestinian suicide bombers.

Against these facts, it’s hard to trust anything CAIR says regarding the fight against terror.

It’s plain the group has ulterior motives.

Politicians from Washington to New York should ignore its aggressive lobbying against targeted profiling, a move that could save thousands of constituents’ lives.

If anyone should be profiled, it’s CAIR

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dee
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Egyptian professor Abd Al-Sabour Shahin is head of the Shari’a faculty at Al-Ahzar University, the most prestigious academy in Sunni Islam, and is a lecturer at Cairo University. This man is not a spokesman for the “tiny minority of religious extremists.” This is a man at the very pinnacle of Islam. He says:

‘Our enemies weave many lies about us, which we are not necessarily aware of. For example: One day, we awoke to the crime of 9/11, which hit the tallest buildings in New York, the Empire State Building (sic). There is no doubt that not a single Arab or Muslim had anything to do with these events. The incident was fabricated as a pretext to attack Islam and Muslims. The plan was to take over the world’s energy sources, and to achieve this control by force and not by agreement or negotiations, by interests, free trade, or anything like that. This is what they wanted’

‘All of a sudden, after we were used to consider America to be a rational and balanced country… All of a sudden, it violates international conventions, cancels treaties, ignores the U.N., acts on its own accord, attacks nations, kills innocent people, and claims it has the right to do so – and all this is based on lies. These were lies from beginning to end, and we were not used to lying – not in policy, not in our discourse, and not in the media. Imagine what crisis the Arab and Islam nation finds itself in, in the midst of these peculiar events, which we cannot explain or believe. All of a sudden, we were framed for an international crime, on the basis of lies’.

‘I believe a dirty Zionist hand carried out this act. Zionism has taken the opportunity to escalate the war in Palestine, killing hundreds of thousands so far, while we watch from the sidelines in astonishment and ask: What’s going on?’

Whats going on, indeed. They seem to want it both ways – bin laden is a hero and a great man, yet he is innocent of the crime Muslims most admire him for. Has there ever been a people on the face of the earth who are such blatant and continual liars? Oh well, ‘taqiyya’ and all that ….

August 10th, 2005 at 12:36 pm
Bozwell
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Gravel,

So you mean to tell me they are not only influencing TV shows like 24 to come out with bullshit disclaimers in favour of Muslims? What a shock!!!

-Boz.

August 10th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
Gravelrash
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Amazing, hey Boz. Apparently….they have agendas!!
DEE: I saw that today….just another piece to make me choke on my toast!
Just perusing the Dailies, I saw three articles that said the same things……and there are still people who cannot see.

August 10th, 2005 at 11:24 pm
Scott
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It isn’t that they cannot see Gravel, they just don’t want to see…

It’s fatalism like this that lends credibility to blaming concrete for the death of some poor person who jumped of the building.
Bring back the Crusades

August 10th, 2005 at 11:48 pm
Gravelrash
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By now, we’ll all have seen the “Australian Jihadii” tape, played on Al Jazeera.
Apart from stirring up a desire to see him dead, the tape brought me back to the initial points I have been trying to make, which began this thread.

Convince me that somewhere in Sydney or Melbourne there are not one or two extended families, and an extended circle of friends, 3,4,5 or even 10 “supporters” and “promoters”, who wouldn’t know exactly who this bastard is?? Who was his “Imam” who fed him his diet of death? How did he get “on the inside” of Al Queda, unless people from here pointed him in the right direction. He seemed young…..who funded him?

The point I am making, (probably laboring to make!),is that the Imams and Mullahs and Sheiks have been trying to get to “The Big Table” with hints that they could provide “insider information”, thus proving themselves valuable Security assets.

24 hours should be sufficient to name, shame, and outlaw this pile of excreta, wouldn’t you say? OK…lets give ‘em 72. If they can’t, or won’t….then what have they to offer a “Security Summit”? For sure and certain, they have a whole lot to gain!

Remember Hilalys laughable and inept meanderings through the Wood affair?? This is a “Security Asset”, who will be one of the first to demand a seat at the conference? After all…..he’s numero uno!

The Pommie a-rab who deported himself today, before the steel-capped boots connected to his arse and sent him flying, is in the same stream of insanity as Sheik Omran, Sheikh Khalid Yasin and Wassim Doureihi.
Our “Aussie mossies” haven’t been put under the pump like he has, yet, but would they say anything different to him>
It’s a paraphrase, but he said something like “If I knew of a terrorist, or terror cell, I would tell the mosque or the community and MAYBE they might tell the authorities, But NOT ME, I WOULD NOT DO THAT!
His fellow travellers here in Oz….
* “Islamic law comes first”……
* “No allegiance to Australia”…..
* Osama is innocent, America killed their own people”….
* “Sharia should be the law of the land”…..
* “No Muslim can have an Australian as a friend”

Who will they choose to attend the “Summit”? Waleed Aly, the Melbourne “moderate”. He said today, when asked about the ten questions possed to Imams (Herald Sun)”Perhaps they fear retribution

What….there are muslim here, non-representational and hidden, who can influence the Imams???? Surprise , surprise…..but lets pack ‘em all off to Canberra and share our secrets with them.
That makes sense.
Don’t reward terror. Make a phone call to your local and Federal MP tomorrow!

August 10th, 2005 at 11:52 pm
Gravelrash
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Of course, SCOTT, it’s their “right to their opinion, isn’t it!!!
Pity it almost borders on treason in times of war, and in any time, is certainly treachery.

Several “dinner parties” this last year with old lefty mates(to which I doubt I’ll ever get another invite!!!)….. without “soap-boxing”, but sitting back and observing, once “the topic” was up and running (there’s only ONE topic!).
My honest opinion, based on the observations through the end of a wine glass? They are scared….terrified. Their world dream is going up in smoke. They can’t control the “real” aggressors”, can’t force feed their idiotic social engineering on to third world countries, and they fear for the loss of Utopia. More, they fear becomming irrelevant. They react with more attempts at control and turn on the only targets they can reach, the “Howard Scum”. They are too gutless to approach a real Muslim. Most of them know a token “Afghan refugee”,(especially in Bendigo/Castlemaine), probably knitted a beanie for one!, but thats it. In their eyes its enough to make them experts. Fear is what fuels the Lefties. I have fears too, but not to the point they will stop me from getting at the truth. For most of my old lefty mates, that fear is now cowardice. They need to be told where to stand and what to say, at the appropriate times. Anything else is beyond them.

August 11th, 2005 at 12:12 am
surfed_onin
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dee
10/8/2005 | 12:36 pm

Egyptian professor Abd Al-Sabour Shahin is head of the Shari’a faculty at Al-Ahzar University, the most prestigious academy in Sunni Islam, and is a lecturer at Cairo University. This man is not a spokesman for the “tiny minority of religious extremists.” This is a man at the very pinnacle of Islam. He says:

Is plagiarism a specialty of yours Dee? Kindly give credit where credit is due, in this case, LGF:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16997_Egyptian_Prof-_Muslims_Had_Nothing_to_Do_with_9-11&only

August 12th, 2005 at 2:37 pm
Gravelrash
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surfed_onin:
No one on this blog is interested in ego games. No-one here claims to be a journalist. It is not relevant to any of us who gets the information out, its the getting of the information we care about.
Dee is a prolific poster who has “informed” a very large audience, and her comments on all matters are much anticipated by all of us here…… and I for one, am extremely grateful for some of the “non attributed” information I have gained from her hard work.
If it’s a matter of recognition…..when it comes time for a gong, Dee gets my nod for “Order of Australia”, because she has shown herself to be a true blue, fairdinkumpatriot.
I don’t hear LGF carping about credit…..it’s not an ego game for that site either…..its a war.That “piece” went around the world in 10 minutes…..who gives a damn who wrote it? It’s what was said that matters, especially here at this blog.
If you have nothing to contribute……surf on out, ok? Otherwise, enough of the carping.

August 12th, 2005 at 7:41 pm

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