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War, What Is It Good For?

   Posted by: Patrick   in Idiots, In The news, Patrick

I get annoyed when people say war never solved anything, or all those people died in vain.

No matter which way you look at it, war is a catalyst (simple definition: Changes something without changing itself).

This is the way life works. Every event you as a person experience, every childhood tear, bruise, scrape, bashing whatever shapes who you are right now. Every little thing is integral to the end result. Everything you hear, experience, feel, see or participate in IS you. If you take one thing away, one little thing, the end result changes. Sometimes life changes or twists on the flip of a coin.

For example, grieving people who’s loved one (s) just died unexpectedly will always ponder the what if’s. What if he stayed here another 2 minutes he would have missed that truck. What if I did not have to stop for a pee, the danger would have passed. Life hangs on the flip of a coin.

Who among us is game enough to predict what would have happened, where humanity would be right now if brave heroes did not lay their lives down for an ideal during wartime and won for our side? In World War 2 maybe the Japanese who bombed Darwin only wanted to come ashore for fish and chips? Maybe they only wanted to open a Japanese restaurant? We will never know will we?

As I mentioned before, war is a catalyst, it changes everything without itself changing. War is horrible, tragic, atrocious, shocking, devastating but it is not and has never been “good for absolutely nothin” to coin a phrase.

If the Yanks didn’t develop a bomb first we may have lost WWII, maybe we would have lived under a very different system. Maybe people would have revolted and things might be even better than they turned out in reality. There is no way of knowing. What we do know, is that brave people gave their lives, their dreams their hopes and their futures for those who would come after them. There simply is no greater sacrifice.

There is no one alive today, not a soul who draws breath who can disagree that human kind is where it is right now, because of bloody vicious war. People can argue where they think we could be, but thats just speculation. Those who fought and died for the dream of a better future for their fellow man deserve nothing but the utmost respect of all who follow.

People like ex Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating should bear this in mind.

At a recent book launch, Mr Keating had said the idea of Gallipoli forging Australian identity was a myth, with nothing redeeming for the nation coming from the campaign.

8709 Australians died during the Gallipoli campaign and here is the ex Prime Minister telling all and sundry that they died for nothing.

The campaign may have been a failure, but no one died for nothing. Not one single person. They died for their dream. They died for their vision of a free Australia (something the likes of comrade Keating would remove in a heartbeat given the chance), they died for us. They died so scum sucking dog vomitus (classic Keating insults) like him can belittle their sacrifices, yet he is too arrogant self centered and sickeningly pompous to even recognize it.

Why the Gallipoli campaign of WWI resonated so much with the Australian people is because of it’s “against the odds” heroism. The stories got back of men jumping the wall into a hail of certain death never once retreating and who could not be stunned into total silence? Who could not be touched by their single minded bravery, their belief in the bigger picture and their willingness to lay their lives down for it?

Obviously Paul Keating for one, and many who share his rancid view.

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Paul Keating is a wannabe-neverwas intellectual, now resorting to sensationalism as a desperate means to cure to an acute case of relevance deprivation.

Check this article from last year which exposes again just how Keating picks a contentious issue and twists it to get attention.

All deserved adjectives aside, Keating just isn’t that bright. As for our soldiers, may they all rest in peace. Gallipolli might have been a ‘military’ defeat but as you said

because of it’s “against the odds” heroism

That being said my mother recalled in her younger years that the public in general were more in awe of the struggle on the Western front than they were of the Gallipoli campaign. The point I’m trying to make by mentioning this is not to discredit the sacrifices made at Gallipoli, but rather to emphasise that national identities are more often than not organically formed, the public shifts towards various symbols for identifiable, but ultimately inexplicable reasons. In Australia in recent decades the public has gravitated towards the Gallipoli campaign as a symbol that shaped our national identity, and so what? It resonates for exactly the reason I quoted above that you so brilliantly summarised.

Would Paul Keating prefer the government dictate the symbols that should shape our national identity? The question answers itself.

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November 12th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
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The war arguments are always interesting. I find it especially so when people blame them on or edge them in religion or ideologies. I generally counter with the posit;
Well one is going to win. Do you want to live under babarian rule, in an absent of ethics and sterile state secularism, or one in which your humanity is taken into consideration ‘warts and all’?

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November 13th, 2008 at 3:53 am
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Yeah Rachy, it’s odd how people change over time. One week it’s one thing, next week it’s something else altogether.

Hi Shawmut, thanks for the comment. ‘warts and all” sounds good to me. Unfortunately though, Governments are usually way too busy self perpetuating to give mush of a toss about individuality.

Sometimes I wonder at what point do the “plebs” rise and revolt?

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November 14th, 2008 at 9:27 am
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It is odd how things change and evolve, but there’s usually decent reasons for it, especially in this case. The Gallipolli thing took longer to present itself and Mr Surface-Selective-Knowledge Keating simply doesn’t have the intellect or inclination to bother trying to understand what you managed to sum up in one sentence.

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November 14th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
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So easy for a man like Keating to despatch the lives given in battles he’s never experienced. How does one just fluff off the anguish of families interrupted by conflict.
Hey, Rachy, try this when dealing with someone’s ego: “better to have been a has-been than a never was – (or, as I add for those who get lost in the legends of their own mythology) – a would-be on the way to becoming a might-have-been. :wink: It pushes the sting in further. :wink:
If Keating is an ‘is”, I ask only; “why?” :lol:

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November 15th, 2008 at 4:28 am
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The thing is he was our bloody PM once and some people still admire him, why I’ll never know. I don’t know what’s worse, Keating himself or people who admire him.

How does one just fluff off the anguish of families interrupted by conflict.

Because they’re soulless attention seeking twats, or reality is too difficult to see clearly from a horse that high.

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November 15th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

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